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[cohp] Digest Number 5077
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Digest #5077
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Spotsylvania VA coHP trip report by davidwmolson2
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Tweedy and Table Mountains, Montana by johnh13679
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Allegheny County Trip Report by "Ed Wandall" eamon69pa
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Re: Allegheny County Trip Report by "oestreicher oestreicher" richard.oestreicher
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Re: Allegheny County Trip Report by "Ed Wandall" eamon69pa
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(no subject) by "hpflyz@juno.com" charleszerphey
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40-year anniversary by "Bob Bolton" rfbolton
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Re: 40-year anniversary by nj55er

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Spotsylvania VA coHP trip report
Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:10 am (PDT) . Posted by:
davidwmolson2

Spotsylvania VA cohp trip report. 14 June 2015.
4 areas 540+ ft.

I had a less friendly experience than earlier visitors. Bottom line is that the area has had robberies and people are less friendly and more suspicious. Bring many copies of maps, etc., and put on your friendliest face.

I did the areas north to south. I tell my experience in reverse order, from south to north:

Area #4. Park near the junction of Lawyer Road and Granite Springs Road. There is now an upscale home "northeast&quot; of the intersection. I walked up its driveway, looking at my GPS, then turned aside to the north property line and found the pile of glass bottles. My opinion is that highest could be in the driveway loop near the house.

On my walk back out I was accosted by a man in a pickup truck. He asked what I was doing, and said I could be shot for that. He said I had set off an alarm that rang in his home. -- He said that a surveyor had said that "there", he indicated towards the house, is the highest point in Spotsylvania county, is monumented, and "You won't find it, because of downed leaves on it." He said that the second highest point in the county is a half-mile to the north. I couldn't get further detail from him. -- He said that persons like me seeking to do what I did should stop at his smaller brick home west across Lawyer Road and get permission. If he is not home you haven't gotten permission. He wouldn't give his telephone number.

Area #3, Intersection of 601 Lawyer Road and 651. Road 651 is called 'Tatum Ln.' west of 601, and 'Houston Ln.' east of 601. Northeast of the intersection seems highest at the house, or a little west at a front yard water-basin. I think it could be just as high at the base of trees south of Houston Ln., or the broad driveway/parking just to the east.

Area #2, East of Lawyer Rd. or west. More of the closed contour is east of Lawyer Rd. I saw no reason to think that this is highest east of Lawyer Rd., even though the east has more area. I couldn't see anything higher than west of the mailbox for #9545. Look for yourself.

Area #1. This seems highest a considerable distance east of Lawyer Rd. I couldn't decide whether it was highest north or south of the property line. I knocked on 4 doors and visited what looked highest. At the further northeast house the woman was quite skeptical of what I wanted to do, and asked if I was casing properties for robbery. To explain it better I said second time that I was looking for the highest hill in Spotsylvania county. She said this is no hill. I said that it is rather flat, but does slope off. She gave in, but wasn't happy, and said I should ask her landlord, next home west, towards the road.
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Tweedy and Table Mountains, Montana
Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:41 am (PDT) . Posted by:
johnh13679
I have a trip planned to go to Tweedy and Table Mountains in Montana on July 11 and 12. If someone is interested in going, send me an email to john.hamann@us.af.mil.
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Allegheny County Trip Report
Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:54 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ed Wandall" eamon69pa
This looked pretty straightforward from the previous trip reports, but things have changed for the worst with regard to access. The fields below the high point are now presumably for livestock grazing. There is a gate at the bottom of the driveway (as noted in previous reports). However, there are now two gated electric fences across the driveway about halfway up. You can unhook them (presumably) or climb through them. I chose the latter and found out that, though the 'gate' area appears to be a fabric ribbon, it is indeed hot. Nothing scary, just a tingle. But be advised, this is probably going to require conserving with the landowner. This appears to be a big dairy farm northeast of the high point.

Ed Wandall

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Re: Allegheny County Trip Report
Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:33 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"oestreicher oestreicher" richard.oestreicher
I did it 5 years ago, and it was already clear then that there is an access problem. I went ahead and ran into some hunters who were friends and relatives of the owner who told me to go ahead when I explained.  Dick Oestreicher
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Re: Allegheny County Trip Report
Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:33 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ed Wandall" eamon69pa
I should point out that this is Allegheny County, Pennsylvania! Sorry about that!

Ed Wandall

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Subject: [cohp] Allegheny County Trip Report

This looked pretty straightforward from the previous trip reports, but things have changed for the worst with regard to access. The fields below the high point are now presumably for livestock grazing. There is a gate at the bottom of the driveway (as noted in previous reports). However, there are now two gated electric fences across the driveway about halfway up. You can unhook them (presumably) or climb through them. I chose the latter and found out that, though the 'gate' area appears to be a fabric ribbon, it is indeed hot. Nothing scary, just a tingle. But be advised, this is probably going to require conserving with the landowner. This appears to be a big dairy farm northeast of the high point.

Ed Wandall

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Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:17 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
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40-year anniversary
Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:42 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bob Bolton" rfbolton
Those of you who would rather forget Skamania Mania and the list of 58
Ultras in the Lower 48, I'm sorry to irritate you once again, but here goes.
;-)

It was 40 years ago today that I was fortunate enough to climb that
beautiful pre-eruption cone of Mt. St. Helens. It was bitter cold for June
(hugely unlike this year), with very high winds. Above around 9,000 feet the
temp was below freezing, so the snow was crusted with ice that made our
crampons indispensable. Our route was the largest glacier on the north side,
the Forsythe. At the rim we had to turn west into the teeth of the wind. My
3-man rope team decided to walk side-by-side since there was no crevasse
danger on the summit plateau. The gold line rope that was loosely trailing
behind us became two virtual sails in the wind, making progress even on the
slight incline quite difficult as we pulled those "sails". We stayed on the
summit for as short a time as reasonable due to the cold, and we wanted to
find a place to eat our lunches somewhere out of the wind if at all
possible. Heading toward the eastern edge of the plateau my crampon caught
on a chunk of ice and the wind sent me sprawling. The rope sails pulled me
along the ice, and when I couldn't stop sliding, I finally rolled over into
self-arrest position and dug my axe and crampons into the ice, then
struggled back to my feet. We found a large hump of icy snow behind which we
huddled out of the wind to eat. I was shivering by the time we started
moving again. Two of our party had carried skis and were preparing to ski
from the summit. As they started down I observed that they were not skiing
normally, but instead were side-slipping over the zillions of ice nubbins.
We watched them as they crossed crevasses on snow bridges that we were very
glad to be roped up for. My rope team was the first to get down to the old
famous Dog's Head. Here one of the skiers, who was an extremely strong and
competent alpinist, told me that his legs had never felt so trashed in his
life after being trashed by all those jarring ice nubbins. One by one my
comrades and I sat down in the fantastic glissade track that came off the
top of the Dog's Head and down the steep snow below. I believe the glissade,
which was considered one of the best in the PNW, descended over 2,000
vertical feet, but I can't say for sure. At one point I stopped to rest and
take a look around. I looked back up slope and watched as my skiing friend
and his future son-in-law skied figure-8s all the way from the Dog's Head to
the bottom of the snow far below. I then finished my exhilarating glissade,
and my memories of that fabulous mountain were fixed in memory for a
lifetime.

Here's a link to my album containing photos of the mountain pre-eruption,
three photos from the climb, and some pix from my 2006 climb:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1395146233326.54867.1072308630
<https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1395146233326.54867.1072308630&ty
pe=1&l=0fa79c6c7d&gt; &type=1&l=0fa79c6c7d

Bob Bolton

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Re: 40-year anniversary
Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:51 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
nj55er
Great story!

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From: 'Bob Bolton' rfbolton@gmail.com [cohp] <cohp@yahoogroups.com>
To: cohp <cohp@yahoogroups.com>; prominence <prominence@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 11:42 pm
Subject: [cohp] 40-year anniversary

Those of you who would rather forget Skamania Mania and the list of 58 Ultras in the Lower 48, Im sorry to irritate you once again, but here goes. ;-)



It was 40 years ago today that I was fortunate enough to climb that beautiful pre-eruption cone of Mt. St. Helens. It was bitter cold for June (hugely unlike this year), with very high winds. Above around 9,000 feet the temp was below freezing, so the snow was crusted with ice that made our crampons indispensable. Our route was the largest glacier on the north side, the Forsythe. At the rim we had to turn west into the teeth of the wind. My 3-man rope team decided to walk side-by-side since there was no crevasse danger on the summit plateau. The gold line rope that was loosely trailing behind us became two virtual sails in the wind, making progress even on the sligh t incline quite difficult as we pulled those sails. We stayed on the summit for as short a time as reasonable due to the cold, and we wanted to find a place to eat our lunches somewhere out of the wind if at all possible. Heading toward the eastern edge of the plateau my crampon caught on a chunk of ice and the wind sent me sprawling. The rope sails pulled me along the ice, and when I couldnt stop sliding, I finally rolled over into self-arrest position and dug my axe and crampons into the ice, then struggled back to my feet. We found a large hump of icy snow behind which we huddled out of the wind to eat. I was shivering by the time we started moving again. Two of our party had carried skis and were preparing to ski from the summit. As they started down I observed that they were not skiing normally, but instead were side-slipping over the zillions of ice nubbins. We watched them as they crossed crevasses on snow bridges that we were very glad to be rope d up for. My rope team was the first to get down to the old famous Dogs Head. Here one of the skiers, who was an extremely strong and competent alpinist, told me that his legs had never felt so trashed in his life after being trashed by all those jarring ice nubbins. One by one my comrades and I sat down in the fantastic glissade track that came off the top of the Dogs Head and down the steep snow below. I believe the glissade, which was considered one of the best in the PNW, descended over 2,000 vertical feet, but I cant say for sure. At one point I stopped to rest and take a look around. I looked back up slope and watched as my skiing friend and his future son-in-law skied figure-8s all the way from the Dogs Head to the bottom of the snow far below. I then finished my exhilarating glissade, and my memories of that fabulous mountain were fixed in memory for a lifetime.



Heres a link to my album containing photos of the mountain pre-eruption, three photos from the climb, and some pix from my 2006 climb:



https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1395146233326.54867.1072308630&type=1&l=0fa79c6c7d



Bob Bolton









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