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[cohp] Digest Number 5099
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Digest #5099
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Re: Blue Mountain Forest Association - Croydon Peak-Sullivan County, by "Clifford Young" cayoung114
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Re: Edward Earl by phantomd2k
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Re: BMFA -Sullivan County, NH by davidwmolson2
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Re: BMFA -Sullivan County, NH by "Roy Schweiker" accidentlwanderer
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Adair county, KY;   Windom Peak, CO by

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Re: Blue Mountain Forest Association - Croydon Peak-Sullivan County,
Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:14 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Clifford Young" cayoung114
Thanks for the update. Sad news. 

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 12:15 PM, "Dave davehuber9@gmail.com [cohp]" <cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


  What a bummer! Thanks for giving them a call. 

Dave 
On Jul 14, 2015, at 10:23 AM, will.townes@gmail.com [cohp] <cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Called the Blue Mountain Forest Association at 603-863-3250 and reached the park superintendent Alan. Alan informed me that the park is closed to all visitors. I asked him about Gerry/Jerry referred to in other trip reports and he said Gerry doesn't work there anymore (since two years ago), and furthermore, that the "rumors" of people being allowed to visit for $50 fee were illegal. Alan says he answers only to the Board of Directors, but didn't provide any information on how to contact them. Alan says that they don't want to take the risk of someone falling down and getting killed by a wild boar, among other reasons. Sorry to report this bad news!
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Re: Edward Earl
Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:00 am (PDT) . Posted by:
phantomd2k
I had the fortune of meeting Edward in person just this past April. And while we had just met, it seemed like we knew each other for years. Prior to his visit, I was so very flattered that he reached out to me seeking to meet and hike together, wanting to spend a day with me climbing mountains after coming all the way from Seattle. It certainly seemed like our hike in April was the first of many peakbagging adventures together to come.

That day we had a conversation about his quest to climb Hogback Mountain, the SC prominence peak and also a missing peak in one of his prominence ladders. He had
aborted some previous attempts and had since been fearful of the access and had avoided it since. I shared with him some better access info and encouraged him to do it on his current southeastern visit. He told me: "it doesn't matter if I do it on this trip or not, I know that I'll get it sooner or later." That seemed reasonable enough to me at the time, so I didn't press him to pursue it with the urgency that I did at first.

I feel so lucky that I had the chance to hike with Edward before he left us far too soon, and that my good buddy Rick Shortt also got to do the same with him a few days later.

Rest in peace, EE.

Peter Barr
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Re: BMFA -Sullivan County, NH
Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:27 am (PDT) . Posted by:
davidwmolson2

Roy Schweiker provides useful information, although some of it is contrary to what I heard.

When Adam Helman, I and another did it in May 2012 Jerry told us that several groups were allowed access to the hunting preserve besides us HP ascenders.

A few days later I ran into one of the members of the Blue Mountain Assoc. while visiting the Hartford CT coHP. He confirmed what Jerry said, that they have no problems if it is pre-arranged and he didn't expect any changes once Jerry retired.

Therefore the reports that there is now no access are a surprise and disappointment.
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Re: BMFA -Sullivan County, NH
Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:01 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Roy Schweiker" accidentlwanderer
>When Adam Helman, I and another did it in May 2012 Jerry told us that
>several groups were allowed access to the hunting preserve besides us
>HP ascenders.

In addition to being a cohp, the main peak is also on NH prominence lists
and fire tower lists and an attraction for rare animals not to mention
being just highly visible to the general public from I-89

>A few days later I ran into one of the members of the Blue Mountain
>Assoc. while visiting the Hartford CT coHP. He confirmed what Jerry
>said, that they have no problems if it is pre-arranged and he didn't
>expect any changes once Jerry retired.

My understanding is that Gerry actually cancelled a couple of
previously-arranged trips on the grounds of being too busy the last
couple months before he retired so likely the orders came down earlier

Apparently some members like being an exclusive club and others like
being friendly, the park was closed to visitors for decades before BobP
got the pendulum swung one way and now it's swung back

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Adair county, KY;   Windom Peak, CO
Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:20 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
Adair county, KY 7-12-15
Ken, Annette, and Braxton Oeser, plus Fred Lobdell

Bill Schuler had visited this county previously, and Braxton and I had
visited a few of the areas a couple of years ago, but we decided to
meet Fred in KY on his way west and finish it up. Things have changed
since Bill's report, as they have straightened Highway 61 just south of
Sparksville. Check the satellite view before visiting. I didn't
realize it was this way on my last trip until we revisited the BM at
the fire station. I will comment on the areas as numbered on cohp.org
and in Bill's report.

Seven areas north of Breeding:
Area 1 is on the east side of a fenceline, and has cattle in it. We
approached this one last, pulling into a gravel farm road and parking
just off KY533, just southwest of area 1. We walked up the farm road
and over to the fence next to a fallen shed. Looking over the fence,
the highest area seemed to Fred to be about 40-50 feet east, and maybe
a little north at the same elevation, which I considered both to be
about the same as the level of the fence. The entire contour is in the
field just east of the fence, and since this area has less than 5 feet
of gain, it need not be visited.

We pulled into a driveway in area 2 and obtained permission to check
areas 2, 3, and 4. Area 2 runs along KY533 and up to a house and barn,
gaining about 10 feet in the process to the highest area at the barn.
We checked both sides. Plenty of elevation difference between the barn
and road, and also the eastern and northern edges of the contour.
Areas 2 and 3 are accessed by hiking north from the driveway, ducking
under some electric sing'e-strand wires around horse pens. Areas 3 and
4 rise a little above the surrounding fields, but not enough to contend
with area 2.

For area 5, we drove on New KY61 to the driveway leading to the house
1000 feet south of the contour. The owner didn't mind us hiking across
his farm to his cattle field housing the cohp, some cows, and a bull.
We cautiously followed Annette along the edge of the fence once inside
the pasture, as the cows, and bull, curiously approached. I pointed
out that if needed we could lie down and slide carefully under the
lowest strand, and that Fred could hold the fence and touch the bull if
it attacked. The highest area is about 30 feet from the fence, and
another area in the contour, in the north prong, is close, but a little
lower. This is a fairly flat area, but due to it's size should be
visited.

Area six is at a fire hall, and the BM can be found in the grass
between the parking lot and road. The BM elevation is 1124, and there
is some gain to the highest area behind the fire hall, maybe
approaching 1130, but at least over 5 feet of gain.

Seven areas at Sparksville:
Area 7 is on old KY61, now Blue Ridge Circle, and new KY61 begins just
east of the contour, heading south (see satellite view). The highest
area is in the larger, western prong of the contour, in a field ridge.
There is a house/shed just west of the highest point where we obtained
permission to hike up after explaining our hobby for a few minutes.
This area seems to easily have 10 feet of elevation gain for 1130 feet.
They say the property was surveyed and the high area over 1130 and
their driveway being 1126.

Area 8 is just across the road to the north, behind a house's paved
driveway. Most of the gain to this area is within the driveway up to
the house, outside the contour, and looking across the road from area 7
also indicates it is lower. Gain withing this contour seems to be less
than 5 feet.

For area 9, we pulled into a driveway on the east side of KY61 just
north of the church and spoke with the owners, whom I had spotted in
their driveway. They gave us permission to walk a couple hundred feet
south and east around a shed in the field to the highest area, which
seems quite flat without much gain. Sighting across the road to the
church shows these two to be about the same elevation.

Area 10 is behind the church on the west side of KY61. People were
arriving for church, so we talked to a couple with an Alaska 'Denali&#39;
license plate and pbtained the green light to walk past the cemetery
and church playground to the high area in the field behind them. We
walked the contour northwest, but by sight and clinometer the highest
point in the contour is about 30 feet northwest of the playground
equipment.

Area 11 at the old school has now been bought by a family with 14
children, and they sell vegetable under the bus pickup cover. While
Annette was purchasing corn, and Braxton was petting the dog, Fred and
I located the highest area in the contour, just across the road from
the school by a mailbox. This area seems fairly flat.

Area 12 is across highway 61 to the east, easily reached by a road.
The highest area in this large contour is by a telephone pole in the
east prong of the contour, in a field edge just south of the road.
This area seems to also approach 1130 feet. The northwest prong of the
contour has a barn on it, but sights and seems lower than the telephone
pole. This area also seems and sights higher than area 9 to the
southwest.

Area 13 is north of area 12, but sighting from areas 11 and 12 with the
clinometer, and seeing the flat terrain of the smallish contour in the
field eliminated it from contention.

In summary I would recommend visiting areas 2, 5, 6, 7, and 12 to claim
the county. Any one of these contours would make this an easy county
by themselves (if LIDAR becomes available and does so), but with the
number of landowners and properties, this county took us a little over
3 hours.

Ken Oeser

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I plan on flying into Denver August 12, and taking the Silverton train
and hiking up Windom Peak starting August 13 in case anyone wants to
join me and two friends. My main objective being Windom since I hiked
Eolus a few years ago, I'm willing to give it 2-3 days, or delay the
train day in if necessary due to bad forecast. Other plans before
flying back home August 17 would include Mt. Waas and Mt. Peale as time
allows.


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