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Digest #5117
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Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also how c by "Ken Akerman"
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h by "Ed Wandall" eamon69pa
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h by "Beth Lakin" beth3up
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h by "John Garner" gaengconsultants
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h by "Ken Akerman"
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h by "John Garner" gaengconsultants
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h by "Dennis Poulin" losman90
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h by "Ben Knorr" nebbbben
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h by "a2b2c2_345" a2b2c2_345
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h by "oestreicher oestreicher" richard.oestreicher

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Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also how c
Fri Aug 7, 2015 10:50 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ken Akerman"
I live in the greater Seattle area. I am looking for people in the COHP
group in my area that I could join for hikes to harder peaks in Washington.
For example, I would like to ascend Mount Stuart
<http://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=2182> (9,415 feet)

However, I received a comment from someone who was on a hike that I did to
the summit of a fairly large peak (Davis Peak
<http://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=18996>, 6,426 feet), and he
complained, "However, I noticed you were falling behind a lot." I feel very
bad about my inability to hike fast, and therefore I am losing
opportunities to climb mountains. It appears to me that since there are
other hikers (not in COHP) who don't think very highly of me, I have to
climb many peaks by myself. Of course, not all peaks can one climb solo, so
I need to develop excellent relationships with other hikers. That includes
developing the ability to hike fast. I know most members of COHP.org are
fast hikers, so I want to develop the skills to hike fast.

What advice can members of COHP.org give to me to train so I can hike as
fast as possible? Please call me at the number below. Thank you.

Ken Akerman
*480-628-5575*
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h
Fri Aug 7, 2015 10:52 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ed Wandall" eamon69pa
Ken, hike at your own speed and enjoy being in the hills. If you get out east, look me up, happy to walk with a mountain enthusiast at any speed.

Ed Wandall


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Subject: [cohp] Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also how can I hike faster?


I live in the greater Seattle area. I am looking for people in the COHP group in my area that I could join for hikes to harder peaks in Washington. For example, I would like to ascend Mount Stuart<http://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=2182> (9,415 feet)

However, I received a comment from someone who was on a hike that I did to the summit of a fairly large peak (Davis Peak<http://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=18996>, 6,426 feet), and he complained, "However, I noticed you were falling behind a lot." I feel very bad about my inability to hike fast, and therefore I am losing opportunities to climb mountains. It appears to me that since there are other hikers (not in COHP) who don't think very highly of me, I have to climb many peaks by myself. Of course, not all peaks can one climb solo, so I need to develop excellent relationships with other hikers. That includes developing the ability to hike fast. I know most members of COHP.org are fast hikers, so I want to develop the skills to hike fast.

What advice can members of COHP.org give to me to train so I can hike as fast as possible? Please call me at the number below. Thank you.

Ken Akerman
480-628-5575

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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h
Fri Aug 7, 2015 10:58 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Beth Lakin" beth3up
"Fast" vs "slow" hiking is really a huge huge range. I have been told that
I'm a "fast" hiker but I see myself as being somewhere moderate. That,
however, is neither here or there and hiking with people is fun regardless
of their speed.

Differences in speed *does* occasionally cause friction. The best thing
that I have found to deal with disparities in hiking speeds is for the
slower hiker to be very involved in planning. If I plan a hike and have an
idea of how fast I can get to a point and back that's going to affect my
planning in terms of start time, amount of food/water I carry, and how far
I can go in a day. Knowing your speed (both on flat ground and with
elevation gain) and providing input or planning will totally make a hike
with someone faster go a lot better.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Ed Wandall ed.wandall@argus.aero [cohp] <
cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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> Ken, hike at your own speed and enjoy being in the hills. If you get out
> east, look me up, happy to walk with a mountain enthusiast at any speed.
>
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>
> Ed Wandall
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>
>
> *From:* cohp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cohp@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 07, 2015 1:50 PM
> *To:* cohp@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [cohp] Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington,
> and also how can I hike faster?
>
>
>
>
>
> I live in the greater Seattle area. I am looking for people in the COHP
> group in my area that I could join for hikes to harder peaks in Washington.
> For example, I would like to ascend Mount Stuart
> <http://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=2182> (9,415 feet)
>
>
>
> However, I received a comment from someone who was on a hike that I did to
> the summit of a fairly large peak (Davis Peak
> <http://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=18996>, 6,426 feet), and he
> complained, "However, I noticed you were falling behind a lot." I feel
> very bad about my inability to hike fast, and therefore I am losing
> opportunities to climb mountains. It appears to me that since there are
> other hikers (not in COHP) who don't think very highly of me, I have to
> climb many peaks by myself. Of course, not all peaks can one climb solo, so
> I need to develop excellent relationships with other hikers. That includes
> developing the ability to hike fast. I know most members of COHP.org are
> fast hikers, so I want to develop the skills to hike fast.
>
>
>
> What advice can members of COHP.org give to me to train so I can hike as
> fast as possible? Please call me at the number below. Thank you.
>
>
>
> Ken Akerman
>
> *480-628-5575 <480-628-5575>*
>
>
>
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h
Fri Aug 7, 2015 11:03 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"John Garner" gaengconsultants
If you want to increase your hiking speed, find a gym with a treadmill that goes higher than 15 degrees, and walk on it often. You will build your stamina.

Or just hike with slower people. It's not a race. This is supposed to be fun.

> On Aug 7, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Ken Akerman Ken.Akerman@gmail.com [cohp] <cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> I live in the greater Seattle area. I am looking for people in the COHP group in my area that I could join for hikes to harder peaks in Washington. For example, I would like to ascend Mount Stuart (9,415 feet)
>
> However, I received a comment from someone who was on a hike that I did to the summit of a fairly large peak (Davis Peak, 6,426 feet), and he complained, "However, I noticed you were falling behind a lot." I feel very bad about my inability to hike fast, and therefore I am losing opportunities to climb mountains. It appears to me that since there are other hikers (not in COHP) who don't think very highly of me, I have to climb many peaks by myself. Of course, not all peaks can one climb solo, so I need to develop excellent relationships with other hikers. That includes developing the ability to hike fast. I know most members of COHP.org are fast hikers, so I want to develop the skills to hike fast.
>
> What advice can members of COHP.org give to me to train so I can hike as fast as possible? Please call me at the number below. Thank you.
>
> Ken Akerman
> 480-628-5575
>
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h
Fri Aug 7, 2015 11:08 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ken Akerman"
Ed, Beth, and John,

Thank you for your replies. However, I can't "
?hi
ke at my own speed" if other hikers think I am too slow, and therefore,
express doubts about my hiking skills and won't let me join their groups to
climb. I can't "
?
enjoy being in the hills" if there are other hikers who believe I am not
competent, or if I am breathing very heavily in order to keep up with the
group.

I know I can ascend most peaks, but it is important to hike fast in order
to be able to hike with as many different people as possible.

I don't have a gym membership right now, but perhaps I should get one.

Ken
*480-628-5575*

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Ed Wandall ed.wandall@argus.aero [cohp] <
cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Ken,
>

> H??
> ike at your own speed and enjoy being in the hills. If you get out east,
> look me up, happy to walk with a mountain enthusiast at any speed.
>
>
>
> Ed Wandall
>
> *From:* cohp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cohp@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 07, 2015 1:50 PM
> *To:* cohp@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [cohp] Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington,
> and also how can I hike faster?
>
>
>
> I live in the greater Seattle area. I am looking for people in the COHP
> group in my area that I could join for hikes to harder peaks in Washington.
> For example, I would like to ascend Mount Stuart
> <http://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=2182> (9,415 feet)
>
>
>
> However, I received a comment from someone who was on a hike that I did to
> the summit of a fairly large peak (Davis Peak
> <http://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=18996>, 6,426 feet), and he
> complained, "However, I noticed you were falling behind a lot." I feel
> very bad about my inability to hike fast, and therefore I am losing
> opportunities to climb mountains. It appears to me that since there are
> other hikers (not in COHP) who don't think very highly of me, I have to
> climb many peaks by myself. Of course, not all peaks can one climb solo, so
> I need to develop excellent relationships with other hikers. That includes
> developing the ability to hike fast. I know most members of COHP.org are
> fast hikers, so I want to develop the skills to hike fast.
>
>
>
> What advice can members of COHP.org give to me to train so I can hike as
> fast as possible? Please call me at the number below. Thank you.
>
>
>
> Ken Akerman
>
> *480-628-5575*
> .
>
>
>
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h
Fri Aug 7, 2015 11:21 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"John Garner" gaengconsultants
One question. Is it more often that you get winded at altitude? Or just steep trails? Maybe some additional acclimatization would help you if it is the former.

Just curious about how "slow" you really are going. On an average climb with no hands or poor footing, I typically hike about 2.5 mph, with a ten minute break about every hour. That means I average about two miles per hour on the ascent. I do about the same speed going down but I don't usually stop much so it averages about 2.5 mph.

> On Aug 7, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Ken Akerman Ken.Akerman@gmail.com [cohp] <cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Ed, Beth, and John,
>
> Thank you for your replies. However, I can't "
> ?hi
> ke at my own speed" if other hikers think I am too slow, and therefore, express doubts about my hiking skills and won't let me join their groups to climb. I can't "
> ?
> enjoy being in the hills" if there are other hikers who believe I am not competent, or if I am breathing very heavily in order to keep up with the group.
>
> I know I can ascend most peaks, but it is important to hike fast in order to be able to hike with as many different people as possible.
>
> I don't have a gym membership right now, but perhaps I should get one.
>
> Ken
> 480-628-5575
>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Ed Wandall ed.wandall@argus.aero [cohp] <cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> Ken,
>>
>
>> H??
>> ike at your own speed and enjoy being in the hills. If you get out east, look me up, happy to walk with a mountain enthusiast at any speed.
>>
>>
>> Ed Wandall
>>
>> From: cohp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cohp@yahoogroups.com]
>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 1:50 PM
>> To: cohp@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [cohp] Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also how can I hike faster?
>>
>>
>>
>> I live in the greater Seattle area. I am looking for people in the COHP group in my area that I could join for hikes to harder peaks in Washington. For example, I would like to ascend Mount Stuart (9,415 feet)
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I received a comment from someone who was on a hike that I did to the summit of a fairly large peak (Davis Peak, 6,426 feet), and he complained, "However, I noticed you were falling behind a lot." I feel very bad about my inability to hike fast, and therefore I am losing opportunities to climb mountains. It appears to me that since there are other hikers (not in COHP) who don't think very highly of me, I have to climb many peaks by myself. Of course, not all peaks can one climb solo, so I need to develop excellent relationships with other hikers. That includes developing the ability to hike fast. I know most members of COHP.org are fast hikers, so I want to develop the skills to hike fast.
>>
>>
>>
>> What advice can members of COHP.org give to me to train so I can hike as fast as possible? Please call me at the number below. Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken Akerman
>>
>> 480-628-5575
>>
>> .
>>
>>
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h
Fri Aug 7, 2015 1:02 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dennis Poulin" losman90
Ken,

I have had the good fortune to hike with many fellow hikers over the years, however most of my climbs have been solo. For myself I have found that my speed has had a direct relationship with my age and weight. When I was younger and weighed less, I was faster.

I know some hikers who actually enjoy hiking quickly. It is part of the challenge and enhances the satisfaction attained with reaching the summit. Just as some wish to hike complicated risky technical routes when a perfectly good easy trail leads to the summit also, hiking to the summit quickly enhances their personal experience on the mountain.

Finding compatible hiking partners can be a challenging experience. Hiking speed, personalities, hiking goals, and financial capabilities all have a bearing on compatible hiking partners. Ken, you live in the Seattle area. There are many hiking clubs in the area and I encourage you to try them out. I did a short Google search for hiking clubs and many were displayed including: The Mountaineers, The Olympia Mountaineers, The Everett Mountaineers, REI, and several relatively new Meet-Up groups.

So Ken, you have many choices available to you for hiking. You can join a world class group like the Mountaineers, or a more socially oriented group like REI or one of the Meet-Up groups. I'm sure if you hike with some of these groups you will met someone who will develop into a long term compatible hiking partner with similar goals.

Good luck and be safe,

Dennis Poulin



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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h
Fri Aug 7, 2015 3:28 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ben Knorr" nebbbben
I've been told before that I "hike too fast." I've also been the slowest
member of a party. I wouldn't sweat it- hike at a pace that allows you to
enjoy the experience as much as is humanly possible. What others think is
nothing to be concerned with, in my opinion. :)

With that being said, practice practice practice is the way to do it. I
also run recreationally, so I guess it goes together somewhat.

-ben

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Ken Akerman Ken.Akerman@gmail.com [cohp] <
cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> I live in the greater Seattle area. I am looking for people in the COHP
> group in my area that I could join for hikes to harder peaks in Washington.
> For example, I would like to ascend Mount Stuart
> <http://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=2182> (9,415 feet)
>
> However, I received a comment from someone who was on a hike that I did to
> the summit of a fairly large peak (Davis Peak
> <http://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=18996>, 6,426 feet), and he
> complained, "However, I noticed you were falling behind a lot." I feel
> very bad about my inability to hike fast, and therefore I am losing
> opportunities to climb mountains. It appears to me that since there are
> other hikers (not in COHP) who don't think very highly of me, I have to
> climb many peaks by myself. Of course, not all peaks can one climb solo, so
> I need to develop excellent relationships with other hikers. That includes
> developing the ability to hike fast. I know most members of COHP.org are
> fast hikers, so I want to develop the skills to hike fast.
>
> What advice can members of COHP.org give to me to train so I can hike as
> fast as possible? Please call me at the number below. Thank you.
>
> Ken Akerman
> *480-628-5575 <480-628-5575>*
>
>
>
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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h
Fri Aug 7, 2015 4:11 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"a2b2c2_345" a2b2c2_345


Ken,
As the old saying goes..."speed kills".
I was training for Kilimanjaro and was up to four mph.  When I started the climb in Africa, the code words were "pole pole".  That is Swahili for slower slower.I made it to the top with no issues in any department...and I attest this to "pole pole".I just finished Utah s county highpoints last week and I showed my climbing partner the technique. He was amazed at the success and joy of the climbs. 
Enjoy both the summit and the journey:)
Jim. Retemeyer 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

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From: "Ken Akerman Ken.Akerman@gmail.com [cohp]" <cohp@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 2015/08/07 12:50 (GMT-06:00)
To: cohp@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cohp] Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also how can I hike faster?

 

I live in the greater Seattle area. I am looking for people in the COHP group in my area that I could join for hikes to harder peaks in Washington. For example, I would like to ascend Mount Stuart (9,415 feet)
However, I received a comment from someone who was on a hike that I did to the summit of a fairly large peak (Davis Peak, 6,426 feet), and he complained, "However, I noticed you were falling behind a lot." I feel very bad about my inability to hike fast, and therefore I am losing opportunities to climb mountains. It appears to me that since there are other hikers (not in COHP) who don't think very highly of me, I have to climb many peaks by myself. Of course, not all peaks can one climb solo, so I need to develop excellent relationships with other hikers. That includes developing the ability to hike fast. I know most members of COHP.org are fast hikers, so I want to develop the skills to hike fast.
What advice can members of COHP.org give to me to train so I can hike as fast as possible? Please call me at the number below. Thank you.
Ken Akerman480-628-5575

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Re: Looking for hikers to climb high peaks in Washington, and also h
Fri Aug 7, 2015 6:45 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"oestreicher oestreicher" richard.oestreicher
I'll be 68 this week and I've slowed noticeably in recent years. I belong to two hiking clubs in Taos, one of which is pretty speedy--I'm usually the last one up with this group (although I'm faster than  many of them going down). Varying hiking speeds can be a problem in group hikiing; sometimes I end up essentially hiking alone in  what is supposed to be a group hike. I think the key for a relativley slow hiker is finding partners who don't mind going slower than their normal pace. And don't obsess about the problem--it&#39;s supposed to be fun not a source of anxiety.
dick obstreicher
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