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Digest #5164
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Stop Making A Mountain Out of a Molehill by highptlw
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Re: Stop Making A Mountain Out of a Molehill by "Scott Surgent" surgent1
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Re: The Origin of State Highpoints - Rev. #1 by
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Re: The Origin of State Highpoints - Rev. #1 by "David Sanger" davidsangerphotography
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Harney Peak - Tower or BM? by jlhcpa

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Stop Making A Mountain Out of a Molehill
Sun Oct 4, 2015 6:57 am (PDT) . Posted by:
highptlw
Mike,

Your being hypersensitive again. No one else was offended by my posting but you. As Moderator you should exercise restraint and some common sense before calling someone out.

You chose to "zero" in on "one sentence" in my posting comparing William Redfield to Hilary Clinton and making a big deal about it instead of letting it go. What was so offensive?


You focused in on one sentence in my posting and ignored the other 99%. Even you characterized it as a slight dig against Hilary. The focus should be on the word slight which means its not worth mentioning at all.

Unlike you, all the other comments about my posting from Don Holmes, Roy Schweiker, Andy Martin, David Olson, Scott Surgent and others were about Highpointing, not politics.

Mike, you chose to make politics the issue, not highpointing. Im not the only one on this forum that shares this point of view.

Your purposely making a "mountain out of a molehill. You seem to be part of this "politically correct" mindset that is taking control in this country which does not tolerate free speech or difference of opinion.

By bringing attention to this you are "politicizing&quot; the County Highpointers Group. So, do we now have to weigh every word we say to this group? Do we have to "walk on eggshells" or risk being banned?

As, the Moderator of this Group you should be the last person on this forum to initiate controversy and divide the group. The only time you should intervene is if the topic is totally off subject, or if a number of people are offended by the post or if there is spamming or flaming among members. Our previous COHP Moderator, Andy Martin was a real gentleman and did not threaten people off line to ban them or make such a big deal for such trivial remarks. Andy stayed out of it unless it was absolutely necessary to intervene.

By doing this you inhibit open discourse on this forum. Obviously, if I or anyone else openly advocated a political position after being forewarned we should be banned but to call me out for a "thinly disguised reference" to Hilary Clinton is xenophobic.


By scolding and banning people for trivial deviations from what you believe is "politically correct" though you make this group weaker.


Mike, you've made so many contributions to County Highpointers by your incisive reports. Your better than this than criticizing me and others and ultimately banning from this group.


This politically correct nonsense has to end here!


I refuse to be censored. I refuse to walk on "egg shells". I'd rather break them!


If you ban me, so be it!


Lanny Wexler
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Re: Stop Making A Mountain Out of a Molehill
Sun Oct 4, 2015 1:02 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Scott Surgent" surgent1
Lanny:

Let's retool this from an editor's point of view. You are writing an
article for publication in a magazine that heretofore has no particular
political lean, and is intended for a wide audience that includes people
whose opinions cover the entire spectrum, but at that moment, want to read
about highpoints, not politics. So the editor would see the line about
Clinton and say "not germane to the article" and x it out. It has nothing
to do with if the editor agrees or disagrees with you, and it is not
"censorship".

I am a published author and trust me, the first thing you learn to accept
is that the editor(s) will x out everything, so it seems. Don't ever fall
so in love with what you write that you can't stomach it when someone else
does not like it. It's the cost of doing business as an author, and you
must learn to keep to the theme of the article, and stay away from the
irrelevant things, no matter how tempting it may be to write about it.
You're being exposed to a wide audience potentially with this article. Do
you really want them to consider you a hack writer because you cannot leave
out the unnecessary things? I see stuff like that, and bam, that's the end
of my time spent on the article. Even if I agree with it, it's not the
right place for it, and you must develop a sense for that.

There is essentially no censorship here. The only people who get "censored"
are those who join under false pretense and who may actually do harm to the
hobby. We watch them. You were not censored. You wrote the line and it was
printed. You were "edited".

One of the strongest aspects about this group is its civility, which since
1999 has been very good, almost no abuse whatsoever. Political discussion
are fine if it's relevant... mentioning Clinton about the naming of Mt
Marcy in the 1800s is not relevant.

Scott

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Re: The Origin of State Highpoints - Rev. #1
Sun Oct 4, 2015 1:59 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"lefties"??? While I don't take issue with the Mt Marcy comment I do take issue with "lefties" as it clearly points to the posters agenda. Isn't this forum about highpointing? I'm not interested in your political leanings, I'm interested in climbing mountains so can't we just stick to the topic. Enough, already!

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Mark

> On Oct 3, 2015, at 6:26 PM, 'Jere Hanan' jerehanan@cjhanan.com [cohp] <cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Are all lefties this sensitive?
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> From: cohp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cohp@yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 11:58 AM
> To: cohp@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cohp] The Origin of State Highpoints - Rev. #1
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> The originator of this post apparently is not a fan of Hillary Rodham Clinton, and the thinly veiled dig at her in the info about Mt. Marcy is inappropriate and irrelevant. It needs to be deleted.
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> Mike S.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: highpt43@optimum.net [cohp] <cohp@yahoogroups.com>
> To: cohp <cohp@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 3, 2015 10:31 am
> Subject: [cohp] The Origin of State Highpoints - Rev. #1
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> Please find a revised list of the Origin of State Highpoints I submitted on September 29. My thanks to the following individuals for their comments:
> Bob Sumner, Boundary Peak, NV
> Don Holmes, Boundary Peak, NV
> Andy Martin - Magazine Mt, AR and Britton Hill, FL
> David Olson Magazine Mt, AR and Timms Hill, WI
> Scott Surgent - Hawkeye Point, IA, Black Mesa, OK and Boundary Peak, NV
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> THE ORIGIN OF STATE HIGH POINT NAMES
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> INTRODUCTION -
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> I was requested by John Mitchler to research the Indian names for State highpoints and develop a list. I agreed as I thought this would be a very interesting exercise and it has. My research found four State highpoints that still retain their Native American names and ten more State highpoints that went by a Native American names in the past. That left 36 state high points with no references to Native Americans. It became apparent to me I needed to add more to this list and I decided to broaden this list to include a general origin of State high point names. By doing so I was able to increase my list of State highpoints with named origins to 41 States.
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> Many state highpoints have been named after explorers, geologists, surveys and military commanders.
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> The recent renaming of Mt Mc Kinley to Denali by President Obama is not the first time a highpoint has been renamed and may not be the last time either. Mt Rainier, WA is being considered to being renamed its original. The present name Rainier was actually a portly British Admiral Rainier who actually fought against America during the Revolutionary War yet bears the name of Washingtons highest point!
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> Clingmans Dome, Tennessee was named after Senator Thomas Clingman who supported the Confederacy and who refused to resign his Senate seat; being one of ten Senators expelled from the Senate in absentia.
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> Mount Mitchell, North Carolina was named after Elisha Mitchell a geologist who died trying to prove that Mount Mitchell was the highest mountain in North Carolina, after slipping from a cliff near a 40 foot waterfall, hitting his head and drowned. The stories go on and on as you will read below.
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> Alabama - Cheaha Mountain 2,405 ft  Creek Indian word for high place is Chaha. http://www.encyclopediaofalabama.org/article/h-2565 looks like a nice place for a future HP Convention.
> Alaska- Denali  The Great One 20,310 ft - The name Denali is a based on the Kyukon name of the mountain, Deenaalee translated as "the high one". The Koyukon are a people of Alaskan Athabaskans settling in the area north of the mountain. A gold prospector, William Dickey, named it Mount McKinley in 1896, after President William McKinley. The state of Alaska officially changed the name to Denali in 1975. On August 31, 2015, with President Barack Obama's approval, Sally Jewell, Secretary of the U.S. Department of the Interior officially renamed the mountain Denali. Discovered in 1794 by British explorer George Vancouver Denali was first summited on June 7,1913 by Hudson Stuck, Walter Harper, Harry Karstens and Robert Tatum were the first to reach the south summit.
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> Arizona  Humphreys Peak  12,633 ft (Hopi: Aaloosaktukwi, Navajo: Dook?o?oos?d
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> In the 1500s, Spanish Conquistadors searching for gold came upon the Peaks and named them Sierra Sinagua, which means mountains without water. The name didnt really stick because the Conquistadors quickly left in search of the Grand Canyon and other gold. In 1629, some Franciscan Friars who were doing missionary work in the area named the mountain San Francisco Peak in honor of patron St. Francis of Assisi (note that this was more than 100 years before the city of San Francisco in California was founded). On many maps today, the official name is printed as San Francisco Mountain, but most people call it the Peaks or San Francisco Peaks.
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> G.K. Gilbert gave Humphreys Peak its moniker in 1873. He named the mountain after his superior officer, Brig. Gen. Andrew Atkinson Humphreys, who was a captain with the Ives Expedition in 1851.
> Arkansas  Magazine Mountain  2,753 ft -The mountain gets its name from when French explorers were traveling through the area and a landslide occurred on the mountain. The noise from the landslide was so great that one explorer described it as the sound of an ammunition magazine exploding. The explorers then named the mountain "Magazine". Signal Hill is the highest point on Magazine Mountain
> California  Mount Whitney  14,495 ft - In July 1864, the members of the California Geological Survey named the peak after Josiah Whitney, the State Geologist of California and benefactor of the survey. During the same expedition, geologist Clarence King attempted to climb Whitney from its west side, but stopped just short. In 1871, King returned to climb what he believed to be Whitney, but having taken a different approach, he actually summited nearby Mount Langley. Upon learning of his mistake in 1873, King finally completed his own first ascent of Whitney, but did so a month too late to claim the first recorded ascent. A month earlier on August 18, 1873, Charles Begole, A. H. Johnson, and John Lucas of nearby Lone Pine, had become the first to reach the highest summit in the contiguous United States. As they were fishermen, they called the mountain Fisherman's Peak. But in 1891, the United States Geological Survey's Board on Geographic Names decided to recognize the earlier name of Mount Whitney. The name Whitney has remained, resisting a movement after World War II to rename the mountain for Winston Churchill.
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> Colorado  Mount Elbert  14,433 ft -The mountain was named in honor of Colorado statesman Samuel Hitt Elbert, who was active in the formative period of the State and was Governor of the Territory of Colorado 1873-1874. Henry W. Stuckle of the Hayden Survey was the first to record an ascent of the peak in 1874. The mountainous terrain is categorized as Class 1 to 2 Level or A+ in mountaineering parlance. Mount Elbert is referred to as the "gentle giant" that tops all others in the Rocky Mountains.
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> Connecticut  Mount Frissell  2,372 Ft - No information available.
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> Delaware  Ebright Azimuth  442 ft - "Ebright Azimuth" is not a person's first and last name. James and Grant Ebright owned the property on which the benchmark was placed.
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> Florida  Britton Hill -345 ft - Depending on who you believe, Britton Hill was named after the lumber mill baron who developed the area, William Henry Britton, the record setting peak is marked by a stone marker in the middle of a dilapidated rotunda. It is the only state highest point comprised of sand. Anorther version of who Britton Hill was named for is after the retired postmistress of Lakewood which is located in Paxton, Florida.
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> Georgia - Brasstown Bald  Enotah  4,784 ft - The mountain is known to the native Cherokee people as Enotah. It is named for the former Cherokee village of Brasstown,
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> Hawaii - Mauna Kea  White Mountain  13, 796 ft - Mauna Kea is called the White Mountain because of the snow that covers its summit. Mauna Kea is a short version of Mauna a Wakea, a name that connects it to the sky father, Wakea.
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> Mauna Kea, also known by its original name Mauna a Wakea is a sacred place for Hawaiians. Wakea, sometimes translated as "Sky Father" is considered the father of the Hawaiian people.
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> While it is the dwelling place of the goddess Poli'ahu it is also associated with the Hawaiian deities Lilinoe and Waiau. The summit was considered the realm of the gods and in ancient times was kapu (forbidden) to all but the highest chiefs and priests. Occasionally Hawaiian ali'i (royalty) would make the long trek to the top, the last royal visitor being Queen Emma in 1881 who led her companions on the arduous 6 hour journey to the top to see the summit and rejuvenate herself in sacred Lake Waiau.
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> Charles F. Goodrich an American missionary on August 26, 1823, Joseph F. Goodrich, an American missionary, made the first recorded ascent in a single day; however, a small arrangement of stones he observed suggested he was not the first human on the summit.
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> Idaho- Borah Peak -12,662 ft - Borah Peak (also known as Mount Borah or Beauty Peak) The mountain was nameless until it was discovered to be higher than Hyndman Peak, previously regarded as the state's highest point. In February 1934, the U.S. Geological Survey named it for William Borah, the prominent senior U.S. Senator from Idaho, who had served for nearly 27 years at the time. An outspoken isolationist, the "Lion of Idaho" ran for president two years later in 1936, but did not win the Republican nomination, and died in office in 1940.
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> Illinois  Charles Mound  1,235 ft - Elijah Charles, one of the region's first permanent settlers, arrived in 1828 and settled at the base of the mound and the hill assumed his name.
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> Indiana  Hoosier Hill  1,257 ft - The best evidence, however, suggests that "Hoosier" was a term of contempt and opprobrium common in the upland South and used to denote a rustic, a bumpkin, a countryman, a roughneck, a hick or an awkward, uncouth or unskilled fellow. Although the word's derogatory meaning has faded, it can still be heard in its original sense, albeit less frequently than its cousins "Cracker" and "Redneck."
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> Iowa- Hawkeye Point  1,670 ft - The Hawkeye State is a popular nickname for the state of Iowa. According to the Iowa State web site, Two Iowa promoters from Burlington are believed to have popularized the name. The nickname was given approval by territorial officials in 1838, eight years before Iowa became a state, named after Chief Blackhawk. The highpoint was not known until the 1980s - it was believed the IA highpoint was Ocheyedan Mound. At some point in the last 15 years it got the name "Hawkeye Point".
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> Kansas- Mountain Sunflower - 4,039 feet Mount Sunflower is the highest point in Kansas. It is located at the far west side of Kansas on the Harold Family Ranch in Wallace County.
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> Kentucky  Black Mountain  4,139 ft No information available. Black Mountain is tied to the coal mining of the surrounding area.
> Louisiana  Driskill Mountain  535 ft - Louisianas Driskill Mountain is just a few miles southwest of Ruston. In 1859 James Christopher Driskill bought 324 Louisiana acres with this mountain thrown in, and descendants of his nine children still inhabit the area today.
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> Maine  Mt Katahdin  5,268 ft -Translation: The Greatest Mountain-the storm god Pamola is known to frequent its summit http://climbing.about.com/od/usstatehighpoints/a/Mount-Kahtadin-Maines-Highest-Mountain.htm He first recorded climb of "Catahrdin" was by Massachusetts surveyors Zackery Adley and Charles Turner, Jr. in August 1804. In the 1840s Henry David Thoreau climbed Katahdin, which he spelled "Ktaadn"; his ascent is recorded in a well-known chapter of The Maine Woods. The mountain is commonly called just "Katahdin" including by Baxter State Park in official publications. The official name is "Mount Katahdin" as decided by the US Board on Geographic Names in 1893.
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> Maryland  Hoye Crest  3,360 ft - Located just inside of Maryland along Backbone Mountain is Hoye-Crest. At an elevation of 3,360 feet (1,020 m), it is the highest point in the state of Maryland. The location, named for Captain Charles Hoye, founder of the Garrett County Historical Society.
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> Massachusetts  Mt Greylock Wawanotewat  3,487 ft- Chief Graylock was a Western Abenaki warrior chieftain. In 1723 war broke out between the British and the French, Chief Graylock sided with the French and led many daring raids against the British in the Connecticut River Valley. http://www.berkshireweb.com/sports/hiking/graylock.html The mid-1720s conflict known as Dummer's War (also known as Greylock's War, Three Years War, Lovewell's War, Father Rasle's War, or the 4th Indian War) was perhaps the most pitched series of battles and raids between the region's English colonists and groups of the Wabanaki Confederacy. The mountain was known to 18th century English settlers as Grand Hoosuc(k). In the early 19th century it was called Saddleback Mountain because of its appearance.
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> Michigan  Mount Arvon 1,979 ft - No information available. Mt Curwood was formerly thought to be the highest point of Michigan. In 1982, however, the US Department of Interior's Geological Survey team gathered new measurements and found Mount Curwood to be slightly lower in elevation than nearby Mount Arvon. Mount Curwood measured 1,978.24 feet above sea level and Mount Arvon registered at 1,979.238 feet above sea level.
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> Minnesota  Eagle Mountain  2,301 ft Mo information available.
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> Mississippi  Woodall Mountain  806 ft - Northeast Mississippi proudly features their states high point, named for Civil-War veteran and county sheriff Zephaniah Harvey Woodall, Jr. The mountain itself saw battle action as well: the Battle of Iuka was fought close by, and it is believed Union General William S. Rosecrans used the prominence as an observation post.
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> Missouri  Taum Sauk  1,772 ft - Indian Chief of the Piankashaws http://missouri-vacations.com/taum-sauk-mountain-state-park/index.htm Taum Sauk was an honored chieftain of the Piankashaw tribe who inhabited the area in the early nineteenth century. The mountains loveliest feature, the 132-foot Mina Sauk Falls, is named for his daughter who cast herself from this height after the execution of her forbidden Osage lover.
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> Montana - Granite Peak - 12,799 ft - Granite Peaks first ascent was made by Elers Koch, James C. Whitham and R.T. Ferguson on August 29, 1923 after several failed attempts by others. It was the last of the state highpoints to be climbed.
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> Nebraska  Panorama Point  5,426 ft - Art Henrickson and Claude Alden discovered the highest point in October 1951 using a WWI altimeter.
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> Nevada  Boundary Peak  13,140 ft - The peak purportedly derives its name from its proximity to the Nevada-California state line. Indeed, Boundary is inside Nevada by a mere quarter mile. The 1872 survey performed by A. W. Von Schmidt placed the mountain within California, and for a while, Wheeler Peak was Nevada's highest (which made Esmeralda County's highest point about 12,900' along the ridge just to the northeast.) But the border was later adjusted by the USGS to the west by some 1600-1800 feet, reestablishing Boundary's dominance.The oblique California-Nevada border was finally legally settled by the Untied States Supreme Court n 1980. The Von Schmidt Survey, done in 1873, is askew with the current border established by the United States Coast and Geodetic Survey between 1893 and 1899. The effect of the Von Schmidt survey was to place the oblique boundary line east of Boundary Peak, thus putting Boundary Peak in California. If the border had not been changed by the USGS Survey, Wheeler Peak in Great Basin National Park on the east side of Nevada, 13,063 feet, would have the distinction of being the highest point in Nevada.
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> New Hampshire - Mt Washington Agiocochook  6,288 ft - Home of the Great Spirit or Mother Goddess of the Storm The first European sighting of Mount Washington was by Italian explorer Giovanni da Verrazzano (1485-1528), who first noted "high interior mountains" from the coast in 1524 as he sailed north. First ascent Darby Field accompanied by two Abenaki Indians in June 1642 http://climbing.about.com/od/usstatehighpoints/a/MtWashingtonFacts.htm
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> New Jersey High Point  1,803 ft - The land for High Point State Park, donated by Colonel Anthony R. and Susie Dryden Kuser of Bernardsville, New Jersey, was dedicated as a park in 1923.
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> New Mexico  Wheeler Peak  13,161 ft - was named after George Montague Wheeler, who led expeditions to map the vast area Already leading expeditions in the area after the Civil War, Formerly named Taos Peak, after the nearby town of Taos, New Mexico, it was renamed Wheeler Peak in 1950.
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> New York Mount Marcy  5,344 ft - Indian name is Tahawus which means Cloudsplitter http://www.highpeaksclimbing.com/ADKS/Marcy/Marcy.htm First climbed on August 5, 1837 by William Redfield named after New York Governor Marcy who narrowly missed being nominated for President in 1852 and served as Secretary of State from 1853 to 1857. Dont we know someone like that today who followed a similar career path? Hillary Clinton. From NY Senator to US Secretary of State to Presidential candidate.
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> North Carolina  Mount Mitchell  6,684 ft Andre Michaux, a French scientist and botanist, is believed by some historians to be the first European to climb Mt. Mitchell in 1789. Found in Yancey County, Mount Mitchell is the largest mountain in North Carolina. The tall peak is part of the 15-mile long Black Mountain Range; the range itself contains six of the ten tallest mountains in the eastern United States. At 6,684 feet, Mount. Mitchell remains the highest point in the state as well as in the eastern part of the country.
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> Andre Michaux, a French scientist and botanist, is believed by some historians to be the first European to climb Mt. Mitchell in 1789. John Fraser, an English counterpart to the French botanist Michaux, explored the region during the late 1700s. Fraser fir trees, naturally found in the Black Mountains, are named for the English botanist.
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> Mount Mitchell is named in honor of Elisha Mitchell, a professor who taught at the University of North Carolina. In the mid-1830s, Mitchell explored the Black Mountains and studied its height of through barometer readings. During this time, many scientists had assumed Grandfather was the tallest peak in North Carolina, but these claims were eventually rebutted by Mitchells study.
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> After Professor Mitchell revisited the region in 1838 and 1844, he determined that the highest point in eastern America was in the Black Mountains, rather than in the White Mountains of New Hampshire, as was previously believed (Powell, p. 769). Mitchell concluded that Mount Mitchell was 6,672 feet tall, only twelve feet off the true height of the mountain.
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> Congressman and former student of Mitchells, Thomas Clingman, debated whether Mitchells calculations were correct. After Mitchell had made his calculations, Professor Mitchell and Congressman Clingman argued over the location of North Carolinas highest mountain. During the summer months of 1857, Mitchell sought to build upon his claim and he embarked on a hike on Mount Mitchell. However, his journey proved fatal when he slipped and fell from cliff near a 40-foot waterfall, hitting his head and drowning; he was sixty-three years old.
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> After Mitchells death his body was eventually interred at the summit of Mount Mitchell. Governor Zebulon Vance became an ardent support of Mitchells evidence, and the mountain was named in his honor.
> North Dakota  White Butte  3,506 ft- Name comes a chalky white color resulting from the bentonite clay found in the local rocks and soil.
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> Ohio  Campbell Hill  1,549 ft -To European settlers, Campbell Hill was first known as Hogue's Hill or Hoge's Hill, perhaps a misspelling of the name of the person who first deeded the land in 1830, Solomon Hoge. Solomon Lafayette Hoge was born on July 11, 1836 in nearby Pickrelltown, a short distance southeast of Bellefontaine. In 1898, the land was sold to Charles D. Campbell, in whose name Campbell Hill is now known. Campbell sold the hill and surrounding land to August Wagner, who was the original brewer of Augustiner and Gambrinus beers.
> Oklahoma Black Mesa  4,973 ft It's a huge mesa that stretches across New Mexico and Colorado and appears dark from a distance.
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> Oregon  Mount Hood  Wy-East - 11,239 ft - The first white men discovered the mountain on October 29, 1792, when British Navy Lt. William E. Broughton and his crew (representing King George III) saw it from the Columbia River near the mouth of the Willamette River. Broughton named the peak for famed British naval officer Admiral Samuel Hood (who never saw the mountain). First climbed on August 14, 1845 by 3 members of the Barlow party - Sam Barlow, Joel Palmer and Phillip Locke.
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> Pennsylvania  Mount Davis Negro Mountain  3,213 ft - The high point was named for John Nelson Davis, an early settler, American Civil War veteran, surveyor, and naturalist known for his studies of the mountain's flora and fauna. During the Civil War, Davis served in the 102nd Regiment, Pennsylvania Infantry, Company E. Details behind the naming of Negro Mountain are not precisely known and a number of local stories have circulated in the past. The various stories seem to share, however, a couple of elements. One is that of a band of white soldiers or hunters skirmishing with Indians on the mountain during colonial times. The other is the presence with the whites of an African-American companion  variously named "Nemisis" or "Goliath" indicating his great strength or size  who accompanied the whites and died valiantly during the fight. The most popular version of the story] takes place during the French and Indian War, in the year 1756, when frontiersman Colonel Thomas Cresap is known to have led a force against Native Americans on the mountain. A member of his force, a black slave or a scout named "Nemisis," was killed in the battle. The mountain was accordingly named "Negro Mountain" in his honor.
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> Comment: Another state highpoint name steeped in controversy. AK, WA & PA.
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> Rhode Island - Jerimoth Hill  812 ft - is named for Jerimoth Brown, a fellow who owned the hill and much of the surrounding land in the late 1800s. According to Foster historian Viola Ulm, most people pronounce the name incorrectly. "It's Jer-eye-moth," she told a Providence Journal reporter in 2002.
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> South Carolina  Sassafras Mountain  3,554 ft - No information available. Probably sassafras was found abundantly in the area.
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> South Dakota - Harney Peak  7,242 ft - "Hinhan KagaPaha" making of owls, the mountain of the sacred owl or the sacred scary owl of the mountain  called by the Lakota people. It is the sacred site where Black Elk received his Great Vision and thus, the Black Elk Wilderness, which borders the peak, is named after this revered religious leader of the Oglala Lakota.
>
> Harney Peak was named for General William S. Harney, a military officer who served in the U.S. Army from 1818 to 1863. Harney fought pirates in the Caribbean, served in the Seminole and Black Hawk Wars, and commanded the 2nd Dragoons in the Mexican-American War in the late 1840s. General Harney entered the history of the Black Hills in 1855 when he led troops against the Sioux at the Battle of Ash Hollow, one of the first battles of a 20-year war waged against the Plains Indians. After the battle the Sioux nicknamed him "Woman Killer" because women and children were killed. It's ironic that his name is now attached to one of the sacred mountains of the Sioux.
>
> Although many Native Americans, including Black Elk, climbed Harney Peak, its first recorded ascent was by Dr. Valentine McGillycuddy on July 24, 1875. McGillycuddy (1849-1939) was a surveyor with the Newton-Jenney Party, which was looking for gold in the Black Hills, and later was an Army surgeon, who tended Crazy Horse at his death. He was later mayor of Rapid City and the first Surgeon General of South Dakota. After his death at age 90 in California, McGillycuddy's ashes were interred atop his below Harney Peak. A plaque reading "Valentine McGillycuddy, Wasitu Wacan" marks the spot. Wasitu Wacan means "Holy White Man" in Lakota.
> Tennessee  Clingmans Dome - Kuwahi  6,643 ft -The Cherokee know the mountain as Kuwahi or Mulberry Place and consider it a sacred place. According to legend, medicine people would come to the mountain to fast and pray, seeking guidance from the Creator, then they would return to the people of Kituhwa with the guidance and instructions. Clingmans Dome name after Thomas Lanier Clingman (July 27, 1812  November 3, 1897), known as the "Prince of Politicians," was a Democratic member of the United States House of Representatives from 1843 to 1845 and from 1847 to 1858, and U.S. senator from the state of North Carolina between 1858 and 1861. During the Civil War he refused to resign his Senate seat and was one of ten senators expelled from the Senate in absentia. He then served as a general in the Confederate States Army.
>
> Texas  Guadelupe Peak - 8,749 ft - Guadalupe is a Spanish place name, the site of a famous convent, which means "river of the wolf" in Arabic. In the 16th century Our Lady of Guadalupe supposedly appeared in a vision to a native Mexican man, and she is now regarded as a patron saint of the Americas.
>
> Utah  Kings Peak  13,528 ft - The peak was named for Clarence King, a surveyor in the area and the first director of the United States Geological Survey. Kings Peak is generally regarded as the hardest state highpoint which can be climbed without specialist rock climbing skills and/or guiding.
>
> Vermont Mount Mansfield  Mozodepowadso- 4,393 ft - Abenaki word means mountain with a head like a moose. http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/whats-in-a-name-sleuthing-a-mountain-called-mansfield/Content?oid=2243973 The name Mansfield was suggested in 1777 by Dr. Thomas Young, an American revolutionary and Boston Tea Party participant. French explorer, Samuel Champlain discovered Mt Mansfield in 1607. https://books.google.com/books?id=9Jc6AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA201&lpg=PA201&dq=samuel+champlain++mt+mansfield&source=bl&ots=4S5wvplcAq&sig=cg3IUhfVDEjsAwjHwmBgsH36dMc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAGoVChMIs47B_4_3xwIVyHs-Ch1uggnJ#v=onepage&q=samuel%20champlain%20%20mt%20mansfield&f=false
>
> Virginia  Mount Rogers  5,729 ft -The mountain is named for William Barton Rogers, a Virginian educated at the College of William & Mary, who taught at William & Mary and the University of Virginia, became Virginia's first State Geologist, and went on to found the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
>
>
>
> Washington  Mount Rainier T-Swaq 14,411 ft - the sky wiper, it touches the sky - or Tahoma is "that frozen water". From the Puyallup Tribe.
>
> Mount Rainier was once known by its many native names. Now, an alliance of tribal members is moving forward with a proposal to restore an original name to this Northwest landmark. But a long bureaucratic process lies ahead. British explorers named Mount Rainier for a Navy captain who fought to put down the American Revolution. During the American Revolutionary War, Rainier was severely wounded on 8 July 1778, while capturing a large American privateer. He was promoted in rank and went on to become Captain of the 32-gun frigate HMS Astraea. He commanded her on the Jamaica Station from 1786 to 1790.
> In 1790, he became the commander of HMS Monarch. On 8 May 1792, George Vancouver named Mount Rainier in modern-day Washington after Captain Rainier:
> "The weather was serene and pleasant, and the country continued to exhibit between us and the eastern snowy range the same luxuriant appearance. At is northern extremity, Mount Baker bore by compass N. 22E.; the round snowy mountain, now forming its southern extremity, and which, after my friend, Rear Admiral Rainier, I distinguish by the name of Mount Rainier, bore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Rainier,_junior
>
>
> Puyallup tribal member Robert Satiacum says what he's proposing is not a name change so much as a restoration. "When they showed up here it got changed. They changed it. That's part of the process I think when you conquer," Satiacum says.
> The question then becomes which original name to use.
> "Tahoma, Tacobeh, Pooskaus, Tacoma ... There are all these different names," he says.
> Tahoma  the mountain that was God
> Satiacum says members of his group pondered and prayed before choosing Ti'Swaq&#39;.
> "And what that means is the sky, the sky wiper. It touches the sky," Satiacum says.
> Satiacum's Alliance to Restore Native Names is first seeking the support of the National Park Service. A Mount Rainier spokesman says the agency doesn't currently have a position and may not take one.
> Then it's on to the Washington and U.S. Boards of Geographic Names, a process that could take years. Those panels typically demand evidence of broad local support for any name change.
> Native names for other Northwest peaks:
> Mt. Adams = Pah Do
> Mt. Baker = Kulshan
> Mt. Hood = Wy'East
> Mt. St. Helens = Suek
>
> West Virginia  Spruce Knob  4,861 ft - No information available. Probably named for the spruce trees found near its summit.
>
> Wisconsin  Timms Hill  1,951 ft - Town closest to Timms Hull is called Ogema, derived from the Anishinaabemowin word ogimaa meaning "chief. Origin of state's name: Based on an Indian word "Ouisconsin&quot; believed to mean "grassy place. Timms Hill was likely to be the name of a local landowner.
>
> Wyoming- Gannett Peak  13,804 ft - Named for Henry Gannett geographer, mapmaker and astronomer. On June 7, 1922, the U. S. Geographic Board officially confirmed that the mountain, the highest point in Wyoming, would henceforth be named for the father of American map-makingHenry Gannett. Gannett Peak is the highest peak in the Wind River Range and the ... The first ascent was made in 1922 by Arthur Tate and Floyd Stahlnaker.
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Re: The Origin of State Highpoints - Rev. #1
Sun Oct 4, 2015 4:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"David Sanger" davidsangerphotography
*"The Indians called Mt. Whitney "Too-man-i-goo-yah," *which means " the
very old man." They believe that the people once had his home in that
mountain, and from that great height smiled upon the efforts of the good
Indian, or, with a frown on his mighty brow, dealt swift vengeance upon the
unfortunate hombre who transgressed the Pi Ute code of ethics.
'

*A NIGHT ON MT. WHITNEY.* By W. B. Wallace. in *Mt. Whitney Club Journal*,
May 1902, page 8 http://bit.ly/1MTsAuH

"After ascending the new mining road to Mineral King, the party traveled to
the Kern Canyon via Farewell Gap and the Hockett Trail. Continuing
eastward, they ascended what we now call Golden Trout Creek, then turned
north and worked their way along the broad high-altitude benches that
parallel the Sierra Crest in this region. Along the way they named Mt.
Guyot after geologist Arnold Guyot.
Arriving at the western foot of Mt. Whitney, they met Samuel Langleys
scientific party, which was camped near Guitar Lake. Wallace and his
companions ascended Mt. Whitney with members of the Langley expedition and
spent a night on top of the peak. In their accounts of the trip they
preferred the mountains Native American name, Too-man-i-goo-yah, which
they translated as meaning guardian spirit."

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On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 10:31 AM, highpt43@optimum.net [cohp] <
cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> -
>
> *California  Mount Whitney*  *14,495 ft* - In July 1864, the members
> of the *California Geological Survey*
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Geological_Survey> named the
> peak after *Josiah Whitney*
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Whitney>, the State Geologist of
> *California* <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California> and benefactor
> of the survey. During the same expedition, geologist *Clarence King*
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_King> attempted to climb
> Whitney from its west side, but stopped just short. In 1871, King returned
> to climb what he believed to be Whitney, but having taken a different
> approach, he actually summited nearby *Mount Langley*
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Langley>. Upon learning of his
> mistake in 1873, King finally completed his own first ascent of Whitney,
> but did so a month too late to claim the first recorded ascent. A month
> earlier on August 18, 1873, Charles Begole, A. H. Johnson, and John Lucas
> of nearby *Lone Pine*
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_Pine,_California>, had become the
> first to reach the highest summit in the contiguous United States. As they
> were fishermen, they called the mountain Fisherman's Peak. But in 1891, the *United
> States Geological Survey*
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Geological_Survey>'s
> Board on Geographic Names decided to recognize the earlier name of Mount
> Whitney. The name Whitney has remained, resisting a movement after *World
> War II* <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II> to rename the
> mountain for *Winston Churchil*
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill>l.
>
>
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Harney Peak - Tower or BM?
Sun Oct 4, 2015 5:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
jlhcpa
A recent post on Facebook showed a photo of the BM atop Harney Peak. The poster said this was the true HP. But looking at the topo maps, it seems clear that the fire tower sits at the highest elevation. Is there any question about which of the two is the highest? It appears that the BM was set at a lower elevation to the west of the tower ground.

I have not yet visited Harney Peak, but I expect to stop there on my way to the Montana Konvention next summer.

John Hasch


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