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[cohp] Digest Number 5227
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Digest #5227
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Britton Hill monument placement. by
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Britton Hill revisited. by
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Re: Britton Hill revisited. by "John Garner" gaengconsultants

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Britton Hill monument placement.
Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:38 am (PST) . Posted by:
Don -

I'm at the Britton Hill monument right now and my Spyglass app has the monument placed at -

N 30 59' 11' W 86 16' 53' at 345 feet.

This is my 3rd visit to this state highpoint that's nowhere near my home in Oregon. It sure is a long way to come but 100% worth it now that I'm here.

Once again, off into the nearby woods towards higher ground! It's time to put this temporary uncertainty to rest.

Jobe Wymore
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Britton Hill revisited.
Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:27 pm (PST) . Posted by:
<span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Having heard from Chris's report that Britton Hill finally had LiDAR data analyzed I booked a flight to Orlando, to check things out for myself. Why Orlando? Cheapest flight available short notice and this definitely qualified as short notice. </span><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">
</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Like others before me in the past, I had glanced at the ginormous size of the high contour(s) and did my wanderings into the woods to check things out for myself. We've all visited CoHPs where high areas have been disturbed and one can positively say that the area directly around the HP monument has been disturbed to make things enjoyable for the masses. Woods, sand, logs and bushes - now there's grass, toilets and pavement to pair up with a nice sized block of granite.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">
</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">What I ended up finding surprised me, though -</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">
</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Once at the monument I calibrated my altimeter and laid it down beside the monument - it came in at 345'. I then raised it to chest level, briefly left it idle, and it came in at 349' = perfect. At that point I crossed the lawn and headed for the pavilion on the south side of the park and down the trail Chris mentions. When I came across the Highpointers bench, near a trail junction that had a post of sorts with colored directional arrows, I went "100" paces as Chris instructs which had me gently trending upwards; from there into the woods I dove to my right. This whole distance had to have been around 200 yards from the monument "as the crow flies".</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">
</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Along the way to this particular point I continuously monitored my altimeter and didn't possibly know how I would ever get back to 345', let alone higher, since you loose several feet en route, but it did.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">
</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Once in the woods I aimed for what seemed like the highest patch but once there found a few different mounds that could be slightly higher than others, most of which were at the base of the larger trees which is typical in flatter areas. I crisscrossed this area (and beyond) for some time always placing my altimeter device on top of the small soil mounds. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">
</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Now for what surprised me -</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">
</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Several of the obvious "high" spots came in at 345'. None higher.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">
</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Wondering if my altimeter was broke I raised it up and as it should, the altitude increased. I lowered it to the ground and after stabilizing there again was good ol' 345'.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">
</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I spent around 20 minutes zig-zagging the area, even popping out on the other trail, and finally by an older bench I convinced myself all that could be done, was done. Besides, I had a flight back to Portland, to catch which first required a 6+ hour drive back to Orlando. This is one loooong weekend!</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">
</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Now with the long drives behind me and uncomfortably sitting on a connector light to Charlotte, my thoughts are that once-upon-a-time the area where the monument is placed had to have been the "true highpoint" but making it aesthetic has dropped it down to the height of the dirt in the woods. But one has to ask, "what about the LiDAR data"? It's obviously reporting seeing height (something?) that I wasn't able to make out. But that's one of the pleasures of LiDAR, right?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">
</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">What I do know is that after this 3rd visit I feel comfortable that I have done what needed to be done for myself. An added bonus is it sure was nice revisiting this place that has showed me something new every time I've been there. I wish I could say that the 2 other CoHPs along with the 2 National Forest HPs that I visited on this weekend trip are worth writing about but I can't since they were forgettable, at best.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">
</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Maybe down the road when small, hand held elevation scanners that can accurately read even the smallest bump while syncing up with the latest LiDAR are invented, I'll show up for a 4th visit with one of those in my palm. All I need is a committed, innovative Highpointer. Where are you?! Until then I'll stick to HPs where the "top" is obvious. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">
</span></div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 17px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Jobe Wymore</span></div>
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Re: Britton Hill revisited.
Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:03 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"John Garner" gaengconsultants
I am a structural engineer and I own a laser surveying instrument.

One day soon I'll try to tie a jaunt to Britton to verify where the hp is.

> On Jan 10, 2016, at 4:27 PM, lunasoars@aol.com [cohp] <cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Having heard from Chris's report that Britton Hill finally had LiDAR data analyzed I booked a flight to Orlando, to check things out for myself. Why Orlando? Cheapest flight available short notice and this definitely qualified as short notice.
>
>
> Like others before me in the past, I had glanced at the ginormous size of the high contour(s) and did my wanderings into the woods to check things out for myself. We've all visited CoHPs where high areas have been disturbed and one can positively say that the area directly around the HP monument has been disturbed to make things enjoyable for the masses. Woods, sand, logs and bushes - now there's grass, toilets and pavement to pair up with a nice sized block of granite.
>
> What I ended up finding surprised me, though -
>
> Once at the monument I calibrated my altimeter and laid it down beside the monument - it came in at 345'. I then raised it to chest level, briefly left it idle, and it came in at 349' = perfect. At that point I crossed the lawn and headed for the pavilion on the south side of the park and down the trail Chris mentions. When I came across the Highpointers bench, near a trail junction that had a post of sorts with colored directional arrows, I went "100" paces as Chris instructs which had me gently trending upwards; from there into the woods I dove to my right. This whole distance had to have been around 200 yards from the monument "as the crow flies".
>
> Along the way to this particular point I continuously monitored my altimeter and didn't possibly know how I would ever get back to 345', let alone higher, since you loose several feet en route, but it did.
>
> Once in the woods I aimed for what seemed like the highest patch but once there found a few different mounds that could be slightly higher than others, most of which were at the base of the larger trees which is typical in flatter areas. I crisscrossed this area (and beyond) for some time always placing my altimeter device on top of the small soil mounds.
>
> Now for what surprised me -
>
> Several of the obvious "high" spots came in at 345'. None higher.
>
> Wondering if my altimeter was broke I raised it up and as it should, the altitude increased. I lowered it to the ground and after stabilizing there again was good ol' 345'.
>
> I spent around 20 minutes zig-zagging the area, even popping out on the other trail, and finally by an older bench I convinced myself all that could be done, was done. Besides, I had a flight back to Portland, to catch which first required a 6+ hour drive back to Orlando. This is one loooong weekend!
>
> Now with the long drives behind me and uncomfortably sitting on a connector light to Charlotte, my thoughts are that once-upon-a-time the area where the monument is placed had to have been the "true highpoint" but making it aesthetic has dropped it down to the height of the dirt in the woods. But one has to ask, "what about the LiDAR data"? It's obviously reporting seeing height (something?) that I wasn't able to make out. But that's one of the pleasures of LiDAR, right?
>
> What I do know is that after this 3rd visit I feel comfortable that I have done what needed to be done for myself. An added bonus is it sure was nice revisiting this place that has showed me something new every time I've been there. I wish I could say that the 2 other CoHPs along with the 2 National Forest HPs that I visited on this weekend trip are worth writing about but I can't since they were forgettable, at best.
>
> Maybe down the road when small, hand held elevation scanners that can accurately read even the smallest bump while syncing up with the latest LiDAR are invented, I'll show up for a 4th visit with one of those in my palm. All I need is a committed, innovative Highpointer. Where are you?! Until then I'll stick to HPs where the "top" is obvious.
>
> Jobe Wymore
>
>
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