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[cohp] Digest Number 5228
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Digest #5228
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Britton Hill - FL HP - visiting on Mon Feb 29th by "Dave Covill" dave_covill
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Re: Britton Hill - FL HP - visiting on Mon Feb 29th by "roy.schweiker@juno.com" accidentlwanderer
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Britton Hill - Gilsdorf's bump. by
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Re: Britton Hill revisited. by Jobe Wymore, Mount Everest by "Andy Martin" oldadit
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Re: Mount Everest by nj55er
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CA - San Mateo by "John Mitchler" mitchler69
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Re: CA - San Mateo by nj55er
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Re: CA - San Mateo by "Coby King" cobyking
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Re: CA - San Mateo by "Coby King" cobyking

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Britton Hill - FL HP - visiting on Mon Feb 29th
Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:43 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Dave Covill" dave_covill
I will almost for sure be at Britton Hill on Monday Feb 29th ( Leap Year
!!! )

Small chance it would happen Sunday 28 early evening, or Tuesday 1st.

Beckie & I will arrive in New Orleans on Thursday prior, play tourist, walk
the Mardi Gras marathon Sunday from about 7a-2p, and drive East towards FL
afterwards. Maybe get to Biloxi MS for the night ?

I will bring my trusty 5X level, which may or may not help much. I will
also have my very sensitive altimeter like Jobe brought. We shall see what
happens when we take a walk there...

If ANYONE can meet us there, or in LA at Driskill a day later, do let
me know. Email access is spotty for us; best to call or text.

303-517-0355-cell

***************************

Spent the week in SLC UT at the Outdoor Retailer Show convention drumming
up support for the HP Foundation. Might have scored some goodies for the
MT-16 Konvention as well. Spent the weekend ice climbing in Ouray, cold
but fun.

D ( winter mode ) C

-- 

Dave

303-517-0355-cell
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Re: Britton Hill - FL HP - visiting on Mon Feb 29th
Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:24 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"roy.schweiker@juno.com" accidentlwanderer
Dave, is there any chance you can visit the exact LiDAR coords to see what is there? Jobe apparently found several bumps and it would be interesting to see which LiDAR picked.

It was over 20 years ago when I was wandering there and my recollection is that while I didn't think the park was the HP I wasn't sure where the definite HP was.

-rs

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Britton Hill - Gilsdorf's bump.
Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:08 pm (PST) . Posted by:
Roy,

As I understand it, the area that LiDAR put forth as the HP area for Britton Hill is still rather large. Once the highest ground is narrowed down the HP candidate Chris mentions in his write up is very obvious, though, since it's one of the larger upheavals. Besides, having his photo he took on my smart phone didn't hurt either. More than likely his find is the highest spot in the area but the other spots are close; close enough where my altimeter didn't register any difference. His spot did "feel" like it was the highest.
<div>You know, back in day I never recalled loosing elevation while wandering through the woods like I did on Sunday. That can be avoided if you take the longer bushwack route that Chris mentions by taking the right most trail if you're positioned where the monument is behind you. Chris's directions have you going to the left most trail which is the way to go if you're wandering without a GPS. Worth mentioning is it's quite a ways into the woods - way out there before you reach the south line of Section 30. If I remember correctly(?), the trail that you go 100 steps up after reaching the Highpointers bench runs close to this line.

Jobe Wymore</div>
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Re: Britton Hill revisited. by Jobe Wymore, Mount Everest
Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:51 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Andy Martin" oldadit
Jobe's good post on his FL HP visit got mangled in
my daily digest, but is fine on the Yahoo web site.
It follows in case anyone else ran into this.

And at bottom is info forwarded from Fred on a bit
taller peak ;)

(Jobe Wymore)
Britton Hill revisited.
Jan 10 3:27 PM
Having heard from Chris's report that Britton Hill finally had
LiDAR data analyzed I booked a flight to Orlando, to check things out
for myself. Why Orlando? Cheapest flight available short notice and this
definitely qualified as short notice.

Like others before me in the past, I had glanced at the ginormous
size of the high contour(s) and did my wanderings into the woods to
check things out for myself. We've all visited CoHPs where high areas
have been disturbed and one can positively say that the area directly
around the HP monument has been disturbed to make things enjoyable for
the masses. Woods, sand, logs and bushes - now there's grass, toilets
and pavement to pair up with a nice sized block of granite.

What I ended up finding surprised me, though -

Once at the monument I calibrated my altimeter and laid it down
beside the monument - it came in at 345'. I then raised it to chest
level, briefly left it idle, and it came in at 349' = perfect. At that
point I crossed the lawn and headed for the pavilion on the south side
of the park and down the trail Chris mentions. When I came across the
Highpointers bench, near a trail junction that had a post of sorts with
colored directional arrows, I went "100" paces as Chris instructs which
had me gently trending upwards; from there into the woods I dove to my
right. This whole distance had to have been around 200 yards from the
monument "as the crow flies".

Along the way to this particular point I continuously monitored my
altimeter and didn't possibly know how I would ever get back to 345',
let alone higher, since you loose several feet en route, but it did.

Once in the woods I aimed for what seemed like the highest patch
but once there found a few different mounds that could be slightly
higher than others, most of which were at the base of the larger trees
which is typical in flatter areas. I crisscrossed this area (and beyond)
for some time always placing my altimeter device on top of the small
soil mounds.

Now for what surprised me -

Several of the obvious "high" spots came in at 345'. None higher.

Wondering if my altimeter was broke I raised it up and as it
should, the altitude increased. I lowered it to the ground and after
stabilizing there again was good ol' 345'.

I spent around 20 minutes zig-zagging the area, even popping out on
the other trail, and finally by an older bench I convinced myself all
that could be done, was done. Besides, I had a flight back to Portland,
to catch which first required a 6+ hour drive back to Orlando. This is
one loooong weekend!

Now with the long drives behind me and uncomfortably sitting on a
connector light to Charlotte, my thoughts are that once-upon-a-time the
area where the monument is placed had to have been the "true highpoint"
but making it aesthetic has dropped it down to the height of the dirt in
the woods. But one has to ask, "what about the LiDAR data"? It's
obviously reporting seeing height (something?) that I wasn't able to
make out. But that's one of the pleasures of LiDAR, right?

What I do know is that after this 3rd visit I feel comfortable that
I have done what needed to be done for myself. An added bonus is it sure
was nice revisiting this place that has showed me something new every
time I've been there. I wish I could say that the 2 other CoHPs along
with the 2 National Forest HPs that I visited on this weekend trip are
worth writing about but I can't since they were forgettable, at best.

Maybe down the road when small, hand held elevation scanners that
can accurately read even the smallest bump while syncing up with the
latest LiDAR are invented, I'll show up for a 4th visit with one of
those in my palm. All I need is a committed, innovative Highpointer.
Where are you?! Until then I'll stick to HPs where the "top" is obvious.

Jobe Wymore

(Fred Lobdell forward)

>Mt. Everest From The Ground Up This is
?undoubtedly the closest any of us will ever get to the top of Mt. Everest.
?
>K?EEP AN EYE ON THE ELEVATION, LEFT SIDE OF YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN, ?
AND THEN MOVE THE MOUSE WHEN YOU GET TO THE TOP TO SEE A PANORAMIC
?VIEW. Its almost like being there and there's a 360 degree view from
the top!

http://everestavalanchetragedy.com/mt-everest-journey.html

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Re: Mount Everest
Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:34 pm (PST) . Posted by:
nj55er


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Martin oldadit@gmail.com [cohp] <cohp@yahoogroups.com>
To: Cohp Egroup <cohp@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 11, 2016 7:52 pm

And at bottom is info forwarded from Fred on a bit
taller peak ;)

I thought the route from the South Peak to the summit stayed on the ridge line, and that the Hillary Step was essentially on the ridge line, yet the diagram shows the route going out onto the East Face. I assume that the diagram is incorrect?

Mike Schwartz

(Fred Lobdell forward)

>Mt. Everest From The Ground Up This is
?undoubtedly the closest any of us will ever get to the top of Mt. Everest.
?
>K?EEP AN EYE ON THE ELEVATION, LEFT SIDE OF YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN, ?
AND THEN MOVE THE MOUSE WHEN YOU GET TO THE TOP TO SEE A PANORAMIC
?VIEW. Its almost like being there and there's a 360 degree view from
the top!

http://everestavalanchetragedy.com/mt-everest-journey.html

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CA - San Mateo
Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:35 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"John Mitchler" mitchler69
Cohpers -

I've been very busy lately (like since 1998) and from time to time I will attempt to catch up on some things which may or may not have been covered in this forum.

Loro Paterson has retired after several decades of being a ranger with the Mid-pennisula Open Space District. Many of you know her from the group visits to the restricted San Mateo cohp which she organized. She'll be moving out of her ranger cabin and away form that area, so we may need to find another liaison for San Mateo. Perhaps Colby can identify someone.

We owe Loro a big thank you for getting so many of us on that cohp.

- John M.
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Re: CA - San Mateo
Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:08 pm (PST) . Posted by:
nj55er
Loro did great work for us. Glad to have met her at one of the conventions or mini-conventions.

Mike Schwartz

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Subject: [cohp] CA - San Mateo

Cohpers -

I've been very busy lately (like since 1998) and from time to time I will attempt to catch up on some things which may or may not have been covered in this forum.

Loro Paterson has retired after several decades of being a ranger with the Mid-pennisula Open Space District. Many of you know her from the group visits to the restricted San Mateo cohp which she organized. She'll be moving out of her ranger cabin and away form that area, so we may need to find another liaison for San Mateo. Perhaps Colby can identify someone.

We owe Loro a big thank you for getting so many of us on that cohp.

- John M.

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Re: CA - San Mateo
Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:29 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Coby King" cobyking
Hi all:

First of all, many thanks to Loro, who has performed a great service to our hobby over the years, and best wishes on her next act.

Ive taken over organizing trips to the high point. In fact, our first one is being conducted next month. As Ive explained to many who have inquired, Ive formed a list on a first-come, first-served basis, and Im limiting the first couple of visits to 10 people each. Beyond the 10 who are going next month, I have about 15 people left on the list.

I hope to organize 2 or 3 visits each year, so well satisfy all the current demand by the end of this year or so.

I dont live in the area, so Ill probably be looking to transfer the responsibility to someone else by the end of this year. I have a couple of volunteers already, so well see how it goes.

As always, please respect this process. Everyone will get in eventually, and a year or so is really not that long a time in the long view. I waited a long time (more than 2 years) before Loro and I could set up the visit that transferred the process to me.

And of course, of paramount importance, please do not attempt to stealth the high point. That would ruin everything, to say the least.

Thanks,

Coby



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Cohpers -

I've been very busy lately (like since 1998) and from time to time I will attempt to catch up on some things which may or may not have been covered in this forum.

Loro Paterson has retired after several decades of being a ranger with the Mid-pennisula Open Space District. Many of you know her from the group visits to the restricted San Mateo cohp which she organized. She'll be moving out of her ranger cabin and away form that area, so we may need to find another liaison for San Mateo. Perhaps Colby can identify someone.

We owe Loro a big thank you for getting so many of us on that cohp.

- John M.

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Re: CA - San Mateo
Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:29 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Coby King" cobyking
Tahoe, I believe.

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Loro did great work for us. Glad to have met her at one of the conventions or mini-conventions.


Mike Schwartz

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mitchler jdmitchler@aol.com<mailto:jdmitchler@aol.com> [cohp] <cohp@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cohp@yahoogroups.com>>
To: cohp <cohp@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cohp@yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Mon, Jan 11, 2016 10:35 pm
Subject: [cohp] CA - San Mateo

Cohpers -

I've been very busy lately (like since 1998) and from time to time I will attempt to catch up on some things which may or may not have been covered in this forum.

Loro Paterson has retired after several decades of being a ranger with the Mid-pennisula Open Space District. Many of you know her from the group visits to the restricted San Mateo cohp which she organized. She'll be moving out of her ranger cabin and away form that area, so we may need to find another liaison for San Mateo. Perhaps Colby can identify someone.

We owe Loro a big thank you for getting so many of us on that cohp.

- John M.

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