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County High Pointing in all 50 states
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4 Messages
Digest #5292
1a
Lost in Arizona..... by "Dave Covill" dave_covill
1b
Re: Lost in Arizona..... by "Coby King" cobyking
1c
Re: Lost in Arizona..... by "Andy Martin" oldadit
2a
Re: Re.  Completion of North American Country High Points by "fplobdell" deadbugman

Messages
1a
Lost in Arizona.....
Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:32 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave Covill" dave_covill
This is an interesting thread the past few days on the COHP Yahoo posts.
With apologies to COHPer Joe Kidd, second post yesterday;

No, this couldn't have happened to one of us.....

Not a single person who chases cohps or any other backcountry places could
possibly have made that many mistakes. If you can locate places on a map,
you can avoid getting that lost, and compounding that many errors in a row.

I am happy to hear she made it out. 9 days is a long time to be out there.
Cooking a turtle is actually pretty cool. Dunno if I would have thought of
that, maybe.

*****************

Scott - please keep us informed if there are further local news follow-ups
on this. I know you are tuned in to the local SAR action; maybe some people
in that group know more than has been publicly disseminated.

*********************

Bottom line is that either the woman was a total ditz and not able to
navigate very well, or that she had some issues going on which we all do as
we age, and that perhaps she wasn't thinking clearly. A theory was
proposed that perhaps she wasn't truly doing what she said she was, and
instead was just driving about seeking inspiration. We've all done that I
reckon, not sure if I ever found what I was looking for when I did it
though.....

;)

************************

Stay safe, make good decisions when things go wrong, and always recall that
your head is your most important piece of safety gear. Stay put or return
the way you came, instead of getting "losterer";. I keep about 5-6 plastic
bottles of water under my front seat of all my cars. I have a couple of
energy bars in them. Flashlights, clothing, blankets. Cheap-ass plastic
shovel, useless in the mountains, but useful in a muddy puddle. Lighter.
Knife & multi-tool.

If you're bored, go to the HP Mercantile, and order up the Compendium of
Rick Hartman's first thirty S.O.S. articles. If you don't know what I am
talking about, you have not been a Highpointers Club member the past
decade, have you? If everyone who stepped foot outdoors read it, there
would be way less bad stuff happen in the world.

********************

Expecting 2-3' of snow in the foothills west of Denver starting today
across the weekend. Bummer, as the intro to the mountains class for Colo
Mtn Club was scheduled to have the first field day tomorrow, appropriately
entitled "Dry Land Travel Day". Hah! We usually take the students out to
the base of the flatirons in Boulder for team bonding, testing out hteir
boots and clothing, and do a few fun things like spill out theier packs and
see if they have 10 Essentials, walk up and down steep rock slabs for boot
confidence, splash in a creek on the way back to the cars to check for
waterproof-ness, and crossplot with two bearings onto their maps to realize
they can actually plot where they are with a compass. John Mitchler & I
have been instructing this class for two decades. COHPer Don Holmes helped
for many years. Lots of fun.

************************

Dave ( if you read I got lost in the news, something went really wrong... )
Covill

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Dave

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Re: Lost in Arizona.....
Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:11 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Coby King" cobyking
Great post, Dave  keeping it real!


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To: County Highpoints; John Mitchler-H; TERESA HARTMAN
Subject: [cohp] Lost in Arizona.....



This is an interesting thread the past few days on the COHP Yahoo posts. With apologies to COHPer Joe Kidd, second post yesterday;

No, this couldn't have happened to one of us.....

Not a single person who chases cohps or any other backcountry places could possibly have made that many mistakes. If you can locate places on a map, you can avoid getting that lost, and compounding that many errors in a row.

I am happy to hear she made it out. 9 days is a long time to be out there. Cooking a turtle is actually pretty cool. Dunno if I would have thought of that, maybe.

*****************

Scott - please keep us informed if there are further local news follow-ups on this. I know you are tuned in to the local SAR action; maybe some people in that group know more than has been publicly disseminated.

*********************

Bottom line is that either the woman was a total ditz and not able to navigate very well, or that she had some issues going on which we all do as we age, and that perhaps she wasn't thinking clearly. A theory was proposed that perhaps she wasn't truly doing what she said she was, and instead was just driving about seeking inspiration. We've all done that I reckon, not sure if I ever found what I was looking for when I did it though.....

;)

************************

Stay safe, make good decisions when things go wrong, and always recall that your head is your most important piece of safety gear. Stay put or return the way you came, instead of getting "losterer";. I keep about 5-6 plastic bottles of water under my front seat of all my cars. I have a couple of energy bars in them. Flashlights, clothing, blankets. Cheap-ass plastic shovel, useless in the mountains, but useful in a muddy puddle. Lighter. Knife & multi-tool.

If you're bored, go to the HP Mercantile, and order up the Compendium of Rick Hartman's first thirty S.O.S. articles. If you don't know what I am talking about, you have not been a Highpointers Club member the past decade, have you? If everyone who stepped foot outdoors read it, there would be way less bad stuff happen in the world.

********************

Expecting 2-3' of snow in the foothills west of Denver starting today across the weekend. Bummer, as the intro to the mountains class for Colo Mtn Club was scheduled to have the first field day tomorrow, appropriately entitled "Dry Land Travel Day". Hah! We usually take the students out to the base of the flatirons in Boulder for team bonding, testing out hteir boots and clothing, and do a few fun things like spill out theier packs and see if they have 10 Essentials, walk up and down steep rock slabs for boot confidence, splash in a creek on the way back to the cars to check for waterproof-ness, and crossplot with two bearings onto their maps to realize they can actually plot where they are with a compass. John Mitchler & I have been instructing this class for two decades. COHPer Don Holmes helped for many years. Lots of fun.

************************

Dave ( if you read I got lost in the news, something went really wrong... ) Covill



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Re: Lost in Arizona.....
Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:28 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Andy Martin" oldadit
(Dave)
>>No, this couldn't have happened to one of us.....

Knock on wood, but none of our group driving
from Tucson to Phoenix ever got lost for 9 days
enroute ;)

For an example a bit closer to home,
consider how James Kim took a wrong
turn on a snow covered paved highway not far from Brandy Peak
(Oregon COHP)
http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/12/04/45/2640228/10/920x920.jpg

Some of us could conceivably get snowbound in out of the
way places, like this unfortunate AZ COHP completer:

http://www.desertmountaineer.com/2013/10/14/escape-from-mt-graham/

5 days of shoveling snow - yikes !

And for another "one of us" incident, in a navigational
disaster last summer I started at the cross hair in the
link below, trying to go around bump 3419 and continue east
to Baker Mountain:

http://listsofjohn.com/mapf?lat=45.5722&lon=-69.4002&z=15&t=u&d=r

Just a 50 foot climb and 200 yards - piece of cake.
On the first two attempts, after wasting a good bit of time
and energy wrestling wet Christmas trees, I ended up right
back at the crosshair !

No way this was my fault, as it can be blamed on:
No trail
Dense trees
Deadfall
No shadows (thick cloud cover)

But I suppose NO COMPASS might also be a factor ...

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Re: Re.  Completion of North American Country High Points
Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:43 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"fplobdell" deadbugman

non-county (although differing by only one letter)

This is indeed a remarkable accomplishment by the Gilbertson brothers, and I don't believe that it's been done before.  They climbed the highest point of all 23 North American countries.  They said their most difficult climbs were Denali and Mt. Logan.  Their trip reports are detailed, quite interesting, and well-written, and are available (or links to them are available)  on Peakbagger.  They have also climbed most of the European HPs, and some in South America, Asia, Africa, and Oceania.  I do hope they're eligible for frequent flyer miles.

As David noted, North America is considered by geographers to include all of Central America and the Caribbean.

Fred Lobdell

----- Original Message -----

From: "DavidWmOlson@netscape.net [cohp]" cohp@yahoogroups.com

Two bright guys from MIT summited all 23 country high points in "North America".  ( There are 10 on the 'continent'; from the countries mentioned in the article they also climbed island nation HPs from the Bahamas and Cuba southward.)

I look forward to hearing Fred's remark on it.
I would like to hear (would have liked to hear) bright guy Adam Helman's and bright guy Edward Earl's comments too.

Regards,

David Olson

davidwmolson@aim.com

Two bright guys from MIT summited all 23 country high points in "North America".  ( There are 10 on the 'continent'; from the countries mentioned in the article they also climbed island nation HPs from the Bahamas and Cuba southward.)

I look forward to hearing Fred's remark on it.
I would like to hear (would have liked to hear) bright guy Adam Helman's and bright guy Edward Earl's comments too.

Regards,

David Olson

davidwmolson@aim.com

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