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County High Pointing in all 50 states
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Digest #5411
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NJ COHP Completion by baxbarnowl@att.net
1b
Re: NJ COHP Completion by "Ed Wandall" eamon69pa
1c
Re: NJ COHP Completion by "Scott Surgent" surgent1
2a
Congrats, Dan! by "fplobdell" deadbugman
3a
HP'ing Tools - Cell Phone as replacement for your GPS unit, the Waze by baxbarnowl@att.net
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Re: HP'ing Tools - Cell Phone as replacement for your GPS unit, the by "Andy Martin" oldadit
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Re: HP'ing Tools - Cell Phone as replacement for your GPS unit, the by "David Sanger" davidsangerphotography

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1a
NJ COHP Completion
Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:27 am (PST) . Posted by:
baxbarnowl@att.net
Last Thursday I stopped by northern New Jersey, after a week of SE United States peakbagging, and finally managed to turn my NJ COHP map green. All five counties had multiple contenders, and I ended up summiting them all, even a couple that are no longer considered to be in real consideration.


This was long overdue. I began my earnest work on the NJ COHPs on June 14, 2005. I finished on the sixth and northernmost of Passaic Countys contenders last Wednesday, November 16, 2016, representing a time span of over 11 years.


I really, though, did my first NJ COHPs much earlier. I went to college in Princeton, Mercer County, NJ from 1975-1978, and spent many a day hiking & biking this truly bucolic Garden State, which is so maligned by those who know only the I-95/US 1 corridor. I did bike with a friend to the base of Mercer Countys HP Baldpate Mountain in the spring of 1976, upon which we hiked to the top. This would predate the listed first ascent of the group by M & J Schwartz listed as 11/30/1992. I also visited High Point twice during my college years. The University has a rural camp in Blairstown and being a member of the outdoor clubs visited that area frequently back then. I am fairly sure I walked right by (but not on) the Kittatiny Ridge HPs of Warren County.


A special thanks to Mike Schwartz, the stalwart ambassador to the NJ COHPs. I wrote him soon before I left for this recent outing to ask him if there were any recent changes not described in current COHP & PB reports. He responded with a detailed email and true to his form apologized than he could not accompany me as he was out of town those days - even though I did not ask him to be there with me. I will incorporate some of his advice in my trip report to follow. That is, if I dont procrastinate until it all becomes fuzzy in my mind and I cease to create a report at all - something I do far too often.


Mike suggested I finish the state in either Ocean or Essex County, which he believed has not been a finisher county to date. I truly considered doing so, but alas daylong rains last Tuesday made me reconsider doing the hardest and most off-trailed county of Passaic on such a blustery day. Thus I did Warren & Hunterdon on Monday, Ocean then Essex on Tuesday and finished the list last Wednesday in Passaic County.


Im so glad I did so. Passaic IS the hardest county. Six contenders. Brush. Nettles. Exposure on rocky fins. Off trail. But its also a remarkably wild, scenic & beautiful area to explore. Quite fitting for a finisher county.
I had the pleasure of completing California with Dennis Poulin and Kurt Wedburg on N Palisade - the only class 4 COHP in the state. THAT was a fitting completion!
I finished Connecticut, however, on Snow Hill Wyndham County. Near drive up to a trashy fenced in tower with a walk around concrete debris and altered terrain, all without a view. Very much a let down.
Passaic NJ was a FINE place to finish New Jersey! My daughter & I celebrated that eve with a bottle of champagne in her wonderful Greek neighborhood of Astoria Queens.


Reports to follow (hopefully)
Mon Warren & Hunterdon
Tues Ocean & Essex
Weds Passaic


Dan Baxter


Bagasbas Beach, Camarines Norte, Philippines
Pasig, Metro Manila, Philippines

Fresno, CA


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Re: NJ COHP Completion
Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:50 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Ed Wandall" eamon69pa
Congrats, Dan! Great job! New Jersey does have some great hikes and some lovely hills. The NY/NJ Trails Conference maps are great tools. A lot of folks dont even know that trail network exists.

Ed Wandall


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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:28 PM
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Subject: [cohp] NJ COHP Completion



Last Thursday I stopped by northern New Jersey, after a week of SE United States peakbagging, and finally managed to turn my NJ COHP map green. All five counties had multiple contenders, and I ended up summiting them all, even a couple that are no longer considered to be in real consideration.



This was long overdue. I began my earnest work on the NJ COHPs on June 14, 2005. I finished on the sixth and northernmost of Passaic Countys contenders last Wednesday, November 16, 2016, representing a time span of over 11 years.



I really, though, did my first NJ COHPs much earlier. I went to college in Princeton, Mercer County, NJ from 1975-1978, and spent many a day hiking & biking this truly bucolic Garden State, which is so maligned by those who know only the I-95/US 1 corridor. I did bike with a friend to the base of Mercer Countys HP Baldpate Mountain in the spring of 1976, upon which we hiked to the top. This would predate the listed first ascent of the group by M & J Schwartz listed as 11/30/1992. I also visited High Point twice during my college years. The University has a rural camp in Blairstown and being a member of the outdoor clubs visited that area frequently back then. I am fairly sure I walked right by (but not on) the Kittatiny Ridge HPs of Warren County.



A special thanks to Mike Schwartz, the stalwart ambassador to the NJ COHPs. I wrote him soon before I left for this recent outing to ask him if there were any recent changes not described in current COHP & PB reports. He responded with a detailed email and true to his form apologized than he could not accompany me as he was out of town those days - even though I did not ask him to be there with me. I will incorporate some of his advice in my trip report to follow. That is, if I dont procrastinate until it all becomes fuzzy in my mind and I cease to create a report at all - something I do far too often.



Mike suggested I finish the state in either Ocean or Essex County, which he believed has not been a finisher county to date. I truly considered doing so, but alas daylong rains last Tuesday made me reconsider doing the hardest and most off-trailed county of Passaic on such a blustery day. Thus I did Warren & Hunterdon on Monday, Ocean then Essex on Tuesday and finished the list last Wednesday in Passaic County.



Im so glad I did so. Passaic IS the hardest county. Six contenders. Brush. Nettles. Exposure on rocky fins. Off trail. But its also a remarkably wild, scenic & beautiful area to explore. Quite fitting for a finisher county.

I had the pleasure of completing California with Dennis Poulin and Kurt Wedburg on N Palisade - the only class 4 COHP in the state. THAT was a fitting completion!

I finished Connecticut, however, on Snow Hill Wyndham County. Near drive up to a trashy fenced in tower with a walk around concrete debris and altered terrain, all without a view. Very much a let down.

Passaic NJ was a FINE place to finish New Jersey! My daughter & I celebrated that eve with a bottle of champagne in her wonderful Greek neighborhood of Astoria Queens.



Reports to follow (hopefully)

Mon Warren & Hunterdon

Tues Ocean & Essex

Weds Passaic



Dan Baxter



Bagasbas Beach, Camarines Norte, Philippines

Pasig, Metro Manila, Philippines

Fresno, CA



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Re: NJ COHP Completion
Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:03 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Scott Surgent" surgent1
Congratulation!

Scott

On 21 November 2016 at 10:36, Ed Wandall ed.wandall@argus.aero [cohp] <
cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> Congrats, Dan! Great job! New Jersey does have some great hikes and some
> lovely hills. The NY/NJ Trails Conference maps are great tools. A lot of
> folks dont even know that trail network exists.
>
>
>
> Ed Wandall
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cohp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cohp@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 12:28 PM
> *To:* cohp@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [cohp] NJ COHP Completion
>
>
>
>
>
> Last Thursday I stopped by northern New Jersey, after a week of SE United
> States peakbagging, and finally managed to turn my NJ COHP map green.
> All five counties had multiple contenders, and I ended up summiting them
> all, even a couple that are no longer considered to be in real
> consideration.
>
>
>
> This was long overdue. I began my earnest work on the NJ COHPs on June
> 14, 2005. I finished on the sixth and northernmost of Passaic Countys
> contenders last Wednesday, November 16, 2016, representing a time span of
> over 11 years.
>
>
>
> I really, though, did my first NJ COHPs much earlier. I went to college
> in Princeton, Mercer County, NJ from 1975-1978, and spent many a day hiking
> & biking this truly bucolic Garden State, which is so maligned by those who
> know only the I-95/US 1 corridor. I did bike with a friend to the base of
> Mercer Countys HP Baldpate Mountain in the spring of 1976, upon which we
> hiked to the top. This would predate the listed first ascent of the
> group by M & J Schwartz listed as 11/30/1992. I also visited High Point
> twice during my college years. The University has a rural camp in
> Blairstown and being a member of the outdoor clubs visited that area
> frequently back then. I am fairly sure I walked right by (but not on) the
> Kittatiny Ridge HPs of Warren County.
>
>
>
> A special thanks to Mike Schwartz, the stalwart ambassador to the NJ
> COHPs. I wrote him soon before I left for this recent outing to ask him
> if there were any recent changes not described in current COHP & PB
> reports. He responded with a detailed email and true to his form
> apologized than he could not accompany me as he was out of town those days
> - even though I did not ask him to be there with me. I will incorporate
> some of his advice in my trip report to follow. That is, if I dont
> procrastinate until it all becomes fuzzy in my mind and I cease to create a
> report at all - something I do far too often.
>
>
>
> Mike suggested I finish the state in either Ocean or Essex County, which
> he believed has not been a finisher county to date. I truly considered
> doing so, but alas daylong rains last Tuesday made me reconsider doing the
> hardest and most off-trailed county of Passaic on such a blustery day.
> Thus I did Warren & Hunterdon on Monday, Ocean then Essex on Tuesday and
> finished the list last Wednesday in Passaic County.
>
>
>
> Im so glad I did so. Passaic IS the hardest county. Six contenders.
> Brush. Nettles. Exposure on rocky fins. Off trail. But its also a
> remarkably wild, scenic & beautiful area to explore. Quite fitting for a
> finisher county.
>
> I had the pleasure of completing California with Dennis Poulin and Kurt
> Wedburg on N Palisade - the only class 4 COHP in the state. THAT was a
> fitting completion!
>
> I finished Connecticut, however, on Snow Hill Wyndham County. Near drive
> up to a trashy fenced in tower with a walk around concrete debris and
> altered terrain, all without a view. Very much a let down.
>
> Passaic NJ was a FINE place to finish New Jersey! My daughter & I
> celebrated that eve with a bottle of champagne in her wonderful Greek
> neighborhood of Astoria Queens.
>
>
>
> Reports to follow (hopefully)
>
> Mon Warren & Hunterdon
>
> Tues Ocean & Essex
>
> Weds Passaic
>
>
>
> Dan Baxter
>
>
>
> Bagasbas Beach, Camarines Norte, Philippines
>
> Pasig, Metro Manila, Philippines
>
> Fresno, CA
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
Scott Surgent
Principal Lecturer & Associate Director, First Year Mathematics
Arizona State University, Tempe
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Congrats, Dan!
Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:38 am (PST) . Posted by:
"fplobdell" deadbugman
Congratulations to Dan Baxter on his completion of the county HPs of New Jersey. Dan finished the Garden State last Wednesday, Nov. 16, on Bearfort Mountain in Passaic County. He is the 21st person to complete New Jersey.

Fred Lobdell
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HP'ing Tools - Cell Phone as replacement for your GPS unit, the Waze
Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:56 am (PST) . Posted by:
baxbarnowl@att.net
Recent trips within the Philippines and the SE U.S. have strengthened my reliance on my cell phone as a navigating tool.


Cell phone as a replacement for your GPS


In the past two weeks I visited many SE U.S. state HPs, prominence points, park HPs and completed the NJ COHPs. By habit I brought along my Garmin Oregon 600 GPS unit, but found it to be an unnecessary piece of dead weight.
I find that the GPS location capabilities of my iPhone to be just as precise as that on my Garmin unit. Also, being essentially a lazy hiker, I no longer carry a separate camera, as the phone capabilities fully meet my photography expectations.


*1 The Peakbagger phone App


This is now my primary location tool WHEREVER CELL PHONE COVERAGE IS RELIABLE. Kudos to Andrew Kirmse, its creator for this well thought out, well updated and free app. I had great cell phone coverage throughout the six SE US states I visited, the five remaining NJ COHPs I needed. Also, as I am now spending about equal time in the Philippines, which will only increase in the future, the PHs cell phone coverage far surpasses that in the U.S.


I used to carry my iPad but find the iPhone is of course smaller, lighter and easier to protect from wet environments. (A major plus in the Philippines).


Open the app on your phone Select the Nearby icon at the bottom of the screen Select the first (nearest) peak to your location Select the little map icon at top of screen, just to the right of the Peak details header You now see the default Google map that peakbagger.com http://peakbagger.com uses. Your location may or may not be on the screen at this point (eg you are far from the nearest PB listed summit. A problem I find too frequently in the Philippines, where I definitely need to add my last 20 peaks or so to the database. But that, alas, is another story) Hit the locator button in the lower right corner of the map (the dot within the 4 pointed circle) Voila, you now see the blue locator dot where you now stand.

It is now very easy to use your screen to get you to whatever nearby point you are seeking. I found this EXTREMELY useful to get definitively to small knolls of multi-contenders at east coast county HPs, as well as to figure out where the hell you are in the dense rain forests of the Philippines.


*2 Your Backup Plan - No Cell Phone Coverage!!


In the U.S. I use the Topo app - a low cost app in which you can download in advance in the comfort of your home (or anywhere wifi or 3G/4G/LTE phone coverage exists) the USGS topos needed for your intended climb.
Easiest way to find which topo map you need - If the peak is on peakbagger.com, the peaks page conveniently lists which topo map contains the peak. After downloading though be sure to LOOK at the map and see if your intended route is fully on that map. You may need to also download an adjacent topo map.


In the Philippines (and Singapore, Java, Malasia) and I assume any other non-U.S. nation that suits your fancy I recommend buying and using the GAIA app. It, too, allows you in advance to download and save topographic maps (as well as oft useful road, hiking biking maps etc) wherever you have adequate cell phone or wifi coverage. Also, unlike the Topo map I use for the U.S., you can pick and choose precisely what area and how much area you wish to save on your phone, as you get to scroll the specific corners you wish to have.


*3 But my Garmin GPS has Batteries!


Just as Ive advised a backup plan should your cell phone coverage be absent, one should always plan for the possiblility than your phones battery may become depleted. For your Garmin you always bring a couple of spare AA batteries, right? For any but the shortest hikes I also bring one of those now ubiquitous power source batteries. Small for the day hike. Larger one for the weeklong backpacks. Of course dont forget the connecting cable! (like I did on one N Luzon peak tour). You may also, of course, elect to decrease your use of other battery draining apps - those Facebook, selfie movies, run tracking apps, etc.
And of course always remember technology can and WILL fail you. Map N compass, right? I like to print off paper copies of the maps Ive downloaded from the apps described above.


*4 Driving Direction Apps - Waze!!!


Lastly, many of us use any of a number of map apps to get us to our trailheads. Ive tried and used Google maps, Apple Maps, the rental car GPS map, etc. In my opinion hands down the best most comprehensive and easiest to use is Waze. It is THE direction finding app for the Philippines, where its use is highly widespread for those drivers wanting to find the most current and fastest route through the morass that is Metro-Manila traffic. It IS the system used by Uber in the Philippines (I dont use Uber in the States, so I dont know).
Ive simultaneously used Waze and one of the others, and always Waze chooses the better route.
Also GREAT for warning you about that upcoming roadkill, flooded street, and most importantly for me who MAY, ahem, occasionally drive a wee bit fast, that speed trap just around the next bend.


Cheers.


Dan Baxter


Bagasbas Beach, Camarines Norte, Philippines
Pasig, Metro Manila, Philippines

Fresno CA


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Re: HP'ing Tools - Cell Phone as replacement for your GPS unit, the
Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:32 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Andy Martin" oldadit
(Dan Baxter)
>>Recent trips within the Philippines and the SE U.S. have strengthened
my reliance on my cell phone as a navigating tool.

Good info Dan, thanks.

>>*2 Your Backup Plan - No Cell Phone Coverage!!
In the U.S. I use the Topo app - a low cost app

Could you be more specific - when I search for topo in the
app store there are quite a few apps.

On the bright side I stumbled across
TOPOs Nomad
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/topo-nomad/id909846656?mt=8

which is free and lets you download USGS maps of various scales.
Not fully field tested yet, but showed correct position as I
walked down the driveway. Looks like this will replace my
Benchmark NM Atlas for downloading topos in advance.

https://www.benchmarkmaps.com/products-page/mobile-apps/new-mexico-atlas-app-for-ipad-and-iphone

I'm thinking the Benchmark app is no longer available ...

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Re: HP'ing Tools - Cell Phone as replacement for your GPS unit, the
Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:09 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"David Sanger" davidsangerphotography
Dan - I use the Peakbagger app all the time and never have need for cell
phone coverage while hiking. In fact I keep my phone in airplane mode when
hiking to save batteries.

1) the entire Peakbagger peaks database now ships with the app so you can
always check nearby peaks wherever you are.

2) tracking and following a track, or checking a map or where you are on a
route only need a GPS signal. In fact they don't make use of cell service
at all.

3) you can log your ascents and trip reports while offline and it will
upload them once you get connected again.

4) the main thing you do need cell service or wifi for, however, is to
save peaks and tracks before you go out so that you have the maps, trip
reports, and benchmark sheets saved in your phone.

If you have only been using the Peakbagger app when you have cell service
you are missing the best features of the app.

cheers.

david

david sanger photography
travel :: stock :: photography :: technology :: media
updates at www.davidsanger.com
t 510-526-0800
m 510-526-2800

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Andy Martin oldadit@gmail.com [cohp] <
cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> (Dan Baxter)
> >>Recent trips within the Philippines and the SE U.S. have strengthened
> my reliance on my cell phone as a navigating tool.
>
> Good info Dan, thanks.
>
> >>*2 Your Backup Plan - No Cell Phone Coverage!!
> In the U.S. I use the Topo app - a low cost app
>
> Could you be more specific - when I search for topo in the
> app store there are quite a few apps.
>
> On the bright side I stumbled across
> TOPOs Nomad
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/topo-nomad/id909846656?mt=8
>
> which is free and lets you download USGS maps of various scales.
> Not fully field tested yet, but showed correct position as I
> walked down the driveway. Looks like this will replace my
> Benchmark NM Atlas for downloading topos in advance.
>
> https://www.benchmarkmaps.com/products-page/mobile-apps/new-
> mexico-atlas-app-for-ipad-and-iphone
>
> I'm thinking the Benchmark app is no longer available ...
>
>
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