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Digest #5412
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Re: [prominence] Re: [cohp] Re: HP'ing Tools - Cell Phone as replace by "Coby King" cobyking

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Re: [prominence] Re: [cohp] Re: HP'ing Tools - Cell Phone as replace
Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:34 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Coby King" cobyking
I want to reiterate Davids response to Dan about Andrews PB app. On Sunday afternoon and Monday I knocked off 10 peaks in San Diego County, California. My old practice was to, though the Topo! program and my Garmin eTrex, methodically input waypoints for TH and peak locations, and key junctions along the way. This time, while I did a lot of research and printed out peak guides and maps, I didnt use the eTrex once during the trip. I relied completely on the app. As David notes, you just need to download the appropriate maps and reports in advance to your phone.

(I have an Android phone which stores the data on an external SD card that now contains 2.29 GBs of PB data. This probably wouldnt be possible for the typical iPhone power user, but you can clear your maps and reports after you complete your trip. )

Because the map files are large, I try to download them when I have a Wi-Fi connection to avoid unnecessarily running up my data numbers, but of course you can download any time you have cell service. Once downloaded, the maps and reports are always available, because as David points out, GPS is always on. Thus, the app can always bring up where you are in relation to the map. Further you can turn on the tracking feature, which helps in navigation and in creating useful post-trip data.

Whether you have cell service or not on a trip, turning off the cell service radio is a good idea, because Ive found that battery usage is reduced by up to 90% in Airplane mode.

The app also makes it easy to create post-trip reports and update list progress. As most people know, these reports are invaluable, especially when they contain new information. The PB reports database is, IMHO, slowly overtaking the CoHP site as the most important source of information about any particular county.

There are still downsides to an app-only approach. The app doesnt (yet, I hope) support waypoints, and battery usage is still an issue with going only phone. I carry backup external phone batteries on long trips, But Andrew is constantly tweaking the app, and I know its only going to get better. One of the recent improvements (that David mentioned) is that the entire PB peak database (but of course not the maps or reports), is built into the app. This means that with only a GPS signal, you can always find the nearest peaks to any particular location. This is a hugely useful feature in the field, as other frequent users can attest.

We owe both Greg Slayden and Andrew Kirmse an incredible debt of gratitude. They have made our hobby safer and easier. I hope you will all consider supporting their continuing efforts.

Coby



From: prominence@yahoogroups.com [mailto:prominence@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:09 PM
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Subject: [prominence] Re: [cohp] Re: HP'ing Tools - Cell Phone as replacement for your GPS unit, the Waze App


Dan - I use the Peakbagger app all the time and never have need for cell phone coverage while hiking. In fact I keep my phone in airplane mode when hiking to save batteries.

1) the entire Peakbagger peaks database now ships with the app so you can always check nearby peaks wherever you are.

2) tracking and following a track, or checking a map or where you are on a route only need a GPS signal. In fact they don't make use of cell service at all.

3) you can log your ascents and trip reports while offline and it will upload them once you get connected again.

4) the main thing you do need cell service or wifi for, however, is to save peaks and tracks before you go out so that you have the maps, trip reports, and benchmark sheets saved in your phone.

If you have only been using the Peakbagger app when you have cell service you are missing the best features of the app.

cheers.

david

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On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Andy Martin oldadit@gmail.com<mailto:oldadit@gmail.com> [cohp] <cohp@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cohp@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:


(Dan Baxter)
>>Recent trips within the Philippines and the SE U.S. have strengthened
my reliance on my cell phone as a navigating tool.

Good info Dan, thanks.

>>*2 Your Backup Plan - No Cell Phone Coverage!!
In the U.S. I use the Topo app - a low cost app

Could you be more specific - when I search for topo in the
app store there are quite a few apps.

On the bright side I stumbled across
TOPOs Nomad
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/topo-nomad/id909846656?mt=8

which is free and lets you download USGS maps of various scales.
Not fully field tested yet, but showed correct position as I
walked down the driveway. Looks like this will replace my
Benchmark NM Atlas for downloading topos in advance.

https://www.benchmarkmaps.com/products-page/mobile-apps/new-mexico-atlas-app-for-ipad-and-iphone

I'm thinking the Benchmark app is no longer available ...


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