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County High Pointing in all 50 states
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8 Messages
Digest #5424
1a
Re: After Denali, After Everest.... by davidwmolson2
1b
Re: After Denali, After Everest.... by "David Sanger" davidsangerphotography
2a
What I did in 2016 . . . by "John Mitchler" mitchler69
2b
Re: What I did in 2016 . . . by "John Mitchler" mitchler69
2c
Re: What I did in 2016 . . . by "to_slide" emmanuelwdinc
2d
Re: What I did in 2016 . . . by "Scott Surgent" surgent1
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And my 2016. by "Jobe Wymore"
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Trip Reports -- Huntington and Wabash, Indiana by andyhatzos

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1a
Re: After Denali, After Everest....
Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:50 am (PST) . Posted by:
davidwmolson2

Lanny Wexler wrote "One other point about this not being highpointing, I must respectfully disagree with you David is that visiting the ISS is the ultimate achievement for a highpointer. The ISS orbits the Earth at a "height" of 205 mph to 255 mph above the Earth. That is way, way higher than the summit of lowly Everest 29,035 feet (approximately) 7 miles.

"Of course, others may argue there is no up and down in space, so in other words highpointing would only apply to celestial bodies such as the Earth, the Moon,etc."

Dispose of a trivial matter first. The ISS orbits the Earth at a 'height&#39; of 205 to 255 miles, not mph.

The problem is with the word 'point&#39;. Above Mt. Everest there is no point, place, to go to before the Moon. Going higher than Mt. Everest represents a different ambition or ambitions than 'highpointing&#39;, to get higher above some datum such as mean sea-level. When it first became possible to get above the surface of the Earth, in Paris in a balloon c.1790, people had already gotten higher, lived higher, in the Alps and Tibet, than that. And that would be true for many years. But now just about everyone of us has been higher than the top of Mt. Everest in a commercial jet-liner.


When someone does get to the moon again, we will have the problem of characterizing the accomplishment, and who has been 'higher&#39; than someone else. Of the six moon landings to date, which one has been furthest from Earth's mean sea level datum?

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Re: After Denali, After Everest....
Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:07 am (PST) . Posted by:
"David Sanger" davidsangerphotography
Maybe the next move can be virtual peakbagging on the Moon. We already have
detailed maps and 3-d images. An enterprising app developer could develop a
game to journey from designated moon bases to all of the various highpoints
on the moon, with full video simulation as you move across the landscape,
conquer obstacles (rockfall, moonquakes, equipment failure) and
successfully reach the summits and sign the register.

You'd have to plan your routes on maps, get appropriate gear (from an
in-app store) and race against time and weather (! sunlight and meteorites)
to get the first ascent on Mons Huygens and Mons Hadley and others (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountains_on_the_Moon ).

For highpointers we could define various regions, perhaps by lat-long, or
by the highlands and maria, and identify the high-point of each.

Lots of fun for our retirement.

david

david sanger photography
travel :: stock :: photography :: technology :: media
updates at www.davidsanger.com
t 510-526-0800
m 510-526-2800

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 7:50 AM, DavidWmOlson@netscape.net [cohp] <
cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> Lanny Wexler wrote "One other point about this not being highpointing, I
> must respectfully disagree with you David is that visiting the ISS is the
> ultimate achievement for a highpointer. The ISS orbits the Earth at a
> "height" of 205 mph to 255 mph above the Earth. That is way, way higher
> than the summit of lowly Everest 29,035 feet (approximately) 7 miles.
>
> "Of course, others may argue there is no up and down in space, so in
> other words highpointing would only apply to celestial bodies such as the
> Earth, the Moon,etc."
>
> Dispose of a trivial matter first. The ISS orbits the Earth at a 'height&#39;
> of 205 to 255 miles, not mph.
>
> The problem is with the word 'point&#39;. Above Mt. Everest there is no
> point, place, to go to before the Moon. Going higher than Mt. Everest
> represents a different ambition or ambitions than 'highpointing&#39;, to get
> higher above some datum such as mean sea-level. When it first became
> possible to get above the surface of the Earth, in Paris in a balloon
> c.1790, people had already gotten higher, lived higher, in the Alps and
> Tibet, than that. And that would be true for many years. But now just
> about everyone of us has been higher than the top of Mt. Everest in a
> commercial jet-liner.
>
> When someone does get to the moon again, we will have the problem of
> characterizing the accomplishment, and who has been 'higher&#39; than someone
> else. Of the six moon landings to date, which one has been furthest from
> Earth's mean sea level datum?
>
>
>
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2a
What I did in 2016 . . .
Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:43 am (PST) . Posted by:
"John Mitchler" mitchler69
It was another bleak year for cohping with only 3 new ones (only 3 last year as well), although I did make some progress in England. My distractions were numerous, including being derailed by other lists.

2016Achievements  John Mitchler

HIGHPOINTS

3 cohp (estimated total of 671)
* I did redo Jersey Co. IL to claim true completion of that state
* I did fail on one, got to within 900' of Mt Ritter in CA

9 CoH (35 of 49 historic county tops in England)
1 City (Nashville)(42 of 50 most populous cities)
0 State repeats (failed on Granite)
0 National Park

0 National Monument

0 Territory (highest recorded ascent of Agrihan in CNMI)
0 Prominence (specifically done for that purpose)
0 Country

DISTRACTIONS
6 Trig Pillars in the British Isles (have been to ~30 of the 7000 pillars)
2 Old Pubs (6 of 10 oldest pubs visited in England)
3 High Pubs (3 of 5 highest pubs visited in England)
4 High Golf Courses (5 total golfed of the 50 highest golf courses)
25 HP Club Conventions attended

? EMC (identified but not counted)

2 Lighthouses
0 Tri-state Points
0 State Low Points
0 Hot Springs
2 runs (7k, 5 mi)
1 Ripley's Believe It or Not (have now been to 6 of the 33)

Plus I attended a Cubs World Series game (the first ever in my life) . . .

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Re: What I did in 2016 . . .
Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:35 am (PST) . Posted by:
"John Mitchler" mitchler69
Oops. My cousin reminded me that we did two hot springs in Iceland, so my count in that category should be 2 not 0.
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Re: What I did in 2016 . . .
Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:28 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"to_slide" emmanuelwdinc
John, 
I'm interested in this stat. Is there a list of city high points somewhere? 
Nashville city highpoint ~ 42 of 50 most populous
TO

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-------- Original message --------From: "John Mitchler jdmitchler@aol.com [cohp]" <cohp@yahoogroups.com> Date: 12/12/16 10:43 AM (GMT-06:00) To: cohp@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cohp] What I did in 2016 . . .

 

It was another bleak year for cohping with only 3 new ones (only 3 last year as well), although I did make some progress in England. My distractions were numerous, including being derailed by other lists.

2016
Achievements  John Mitchler

HIGHPOINTS

3 cohp (estimated total of 671)

   * I did redo Jersey Co. IL to claim true completion of that state

   * I did fail on one, got to within 900' of Mt Ritter in CA

9 CoH (35 of 49 historic county tops in England)

1 City (Nashville)
(42 of 50 most populous cities)

0 State repeats (failed on Granite)

0 National Park

0 National Monument

0 Territory (highest recorded ascent of Agrihan in CNMI)

0 Prominence (specifically done for that purpose)

0 Country

 

DISTRACTIONS 
6 Trig Pillars in the British Isles (have been to ~30 of the 7000 pillars)

2 Old Pubs (6 of 10 oldest pubs visited in England)

3 High Pubs (3 of 5 highest pubs visited in England)

4 High Golf Courses (5 total golfed of the 50 highest golf courses)

25 HP Club Conventions attended

? EMC (identified but not counted)

2 Lighthouses

0 Tri-state Points

0 State Low Points

0 Hot Springs

2 runs (7k, 5 mi)

1 Ripley's Believe It or Not (have now been to 6 of the 33)

 

Plus I attended a Cubs World Series game (the first ever in my life) . . .

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Re: What I did in 2016 . . .
Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:48 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Scott Surgent" surgent1
Peakbagger has a list to 30 "selected" U.S. cities:
http://peakbagger.com/list.aspx?lid=193

I made one up for the Maricopa County (AZ) cities:
http://www.surgent.net/highpoints/az/maricopa_county_cityhps.html

As city limits change, so can a city's HP. Some city HPs are "fixed"
because the city cannot expand. Other cities can grow in size and include
higher land. Phoenix added land some years ago about 30 miles northwest of
the downtown that included a peak which gave the city a new HP. If Phoenix
were to expand one more mile to the north, it would encompass yet higher
land.

On 12 December 2016 at 14:28, to_slide to_slide@yahoo.com [cohp] <
cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> John,
>
> I'm interested in this stat. Is there a list of city high points
> somewhere?
>
> Nashville city highpoint ~ 42 of 50 most populous
>
> TO
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "John Mitchler jdmitchler@aol.com [cohp]" <cohp@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 12/12/16 10:43 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: cohp@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [cohp] What I did in 2016 . . .
>
>
>
> It was another bleak year for cohping with only 3 new ones (only 3 last
> year as well), although I did make some progress in England. My
> distractions were numerous, including being derailed by other lists.
>
> *2016 Achievements  John Mitchler*
>
> *HIGHPOINTS *
> 3 cohp (estimated total of 671)
> * I did redo Jersey Co. IL to claim true completion of that state
> * I did fail on one, got to within 900' of Mt Ritter in CA
> 9 CoH (35 of 49 historic county tops in England)
> 1 City (Nashville) (42 of 50 most populous cities)
> 0 State repeats (failed on Granite)
> 0 National Park
> 0 National Monument
> 0 Territory (highest recorded ascent of Agrihan in CNMI)
> 0 Prominence (specifically done for that purpose)
> 0 Country
>
> *DISTRACTIONS*
> 6 Trig Pillars in the British Isles (have been to ~30 of the 7000 pillars)
> 2 Old Pubs (6 of 10 oldest pubs visited in England)
> 3 High Pubs (3 of 5 highest pubs visited in England)
> 4 High Golf Courses (5 total golfed of the 50 highest golf courses)
> 25 HP Club Conventions attended
> ? EMC (identified but not counted)
> 2 Lighthouses
> 0 Tri-state Points
> 0 State Low Points
> 0 Hot Springs
> 2 runs (7k, 5 mi)
> 1 Ripley's Believe It or Not (have now been to 6 of the 33)
>
> Plus I attended a Cubs World Series game (the first ever in my life) . . .
>
>
>

-- 
Scott Surgent
Principal Lecturer & Associate Director, First Year Mathematics
Arizona State University, Tempe
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And my 2016.
Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:13 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Jobe Wymore"
I guess 2016 went alright with the highlight being my CoHP completion of California. A few years back I took a significant (long overdue) hiatus from the hobby only to return with the generic thought of adding at least one western state completion to my tally. With Oregon done last year, and now California, I've expanded my outlook to the "Western Contigs" as a whole. 2016 was productive in that regard adding 45 to my tally which now stands at 379/414 coupled with 8/11 states completed.

Other gaps that got partially filled are....

87 CoHPs (estimated total of 869).
5 City HPs.
7 State repeats (44/50 now done).
2 National Park HPs.
2 U.S Territory HPs.
26 CoHPs with 2000' of prominence.
11 State Isolation HPs.
9 State Prominence HPs.
3 Country HPs.
1 Canadian Province/Territory HP.

Next up is 2017,
Jobe Wymore

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Trip Reports -- Huntington and Wabash, Indiana
Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:21 pm (PST) . Posted by:
andyhatzos
Here are reports for two easy counties in northeast Indiana, ascended on November 25, 2016.

First, a LiDAR analysis for both counties, which eliminated all but one candidate area each for both Huntington (2 original) and Wabash (9 original) counties.
http://www.thegreatzo.com/cohp/lidar/counties/in/wabash/ http://www.thegreatzo.com/cohp/lidar/counties/in/wabash/

Trip reports with pictures from both counties, including the second-place rise in each county just because I was there.
http://www.thegreatzo.com/cohp/counties/in/huntington/ http://www.thegreatzo.com/cohp/counties/in/huntington/
http://www.thegreatzo.com/cohp/counties/in/wabash/ http://www.thegreatzo.com/cohp/counties/in/wabash/

With no crops in the fields, these are easy to do, but I'll warn that it took me longer to clean the mud off my shoes than it did to actually ascend the high points.

--Andy Hatzos

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