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County High Pointing in all 50 states
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Digest #5434
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Re: Hiking Mt. Baldy? You'll probably meet 'Sam,' a 78-year-old moun by "fplobdell" deadbugman
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Re: Hiking Mt. Baldy? You'll probably meet 'Sam,' a 78-year-old moun by "roy.schweiker@juno.com" accidentlwanderer
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Re: Larry Davis on Monadnock by "roy.schweiker@juno.com" accidentlwanderer
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Re: Larry Davis on Monadnock by "David Sanger" davidsangerphotography
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Re: Larry Davis on Monadnock by "dean gaudet"
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Re: Hiking Mt. Baldy? You'll probably meet 'Sam,' a 78-year-old moun by "xander Carlson" xandathor
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Re: Hiking Mt. Baldy? You'll probably meet 'Sam,' a 78-year-old moun by "Andy Martin" oldadit
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US datums changing in 2022 by "Andrew Kirmse" akirmse2
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Larry Davis -  Mt. Monadnock. by "Jobe Wymore"

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Re: Hiking Mt. Baldy? You'll probably meet 'Sam,' a 78-year-old moun
Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:45 am (PST) . Posted by:
"fplobdell" deadbugman
It's not even close to the record. Larry Davis climbed Mt. Monadnock (Cheshire, NH cohp) on 2,850 consecutive days over an 8-year span. His streak was broken when he had to take three days off owing to having a severe case of pneumonia. The most recent information I could find on-line was dated Feb. 2015 (almost two years ago) and credited him with about 6,800 climbs of the mountain. As far as I know he is still climbing Monadnock as many as 300 days/year. Roy Schweiker may be able to supply more up-to-date information.

Fred Lobdell

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From: "Coby King cobyk@cobyking.com [cohp]" <cohp@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: [cohp] Hiking Mt. Baldy? You'll probably meet 'Sam,' a 78-year-old mountaineer

Is this the record for one county highpoint? And as anyone who has done the Los Angeles County, California highpoint knows, it is not trivial.

Coby King
310-489-3280

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-mt-baldy-hiker-20161129-story.html ?
Hiking Mt. Baldy? You'll probably meet 'Sam,' a 78-year-old mountaineer

By his count, Seuk Doo Kim has climbed Mt. Baldy nearly 750 times and aims to log 1,000 summits by next year.

Ben PostonBen Poston Contact Reporter
On Mt. Baldys rocky trails all the regulars know Sam, a sturdy hiker of 78 years.
By his count, Seuk Doo Kim has climbed the mountain nearly 750 times and aims to log 1,000 summits by next year.
If you go to Baldy tomorrow, you will run into him, said his son, David Kim. You will never see another man who loves hiking or who is as obsessed with hiking as him.
On a recent Sunday morning, he ascended the domed peak for the 100th day in a row.
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You will never see another man who loves hiking or who is as obsessed with hiking as him.  David Kim, Seuk Doo Kim's son
Im feeling Gods embrace  this is better than church, Sam said on the way up. My shortcut is the holy spirit.
But its faith in his own legs and lungs that lets him veer off the main trail and scramble up routes that leave others gasping for air.
Hiking days begin with Kim driving about an hour and a half from his home in Culver City.
He parks his BMW at Manker Flats, throws on a 20-pound backpack full of snacks and three liters of water, and heads out, his presence as unsurprising as that of a scrub jay or a scurrying lizard.
What time did you start? hell ask weary hikers along the granite scree. How old are you?
Happy for a distraction from blisters and sore feet, most stop to talk.
My shortcut is the holy spirit.  Hiker Sam Kim
Climbing Mt. Baldy 1,000 times
By his count, Seuk Doo Kim has climbed the mountain nearly 750 times and aims to log 1,000 summits by next year.
Sam doesnt take no for an answer when he hands them jelly beans, a bag of Doritos or a Clif Bar. Hes even more persistent about getting selfies with the people he encounters, posing for hundreds over the years.
It got to the point where I said no more pictures, said Ellen Coleman, 63, of Riverside, as she descended the ski hut trail. He calls me Superwoman, but hes significantly older than me so I call him Superman. Hes incredible.
Sam has made the journey more than 240 times this year alone, and he has the time-stamped photos to prove it.
Climbing Mt. Baldy is not a remarkable feat. Its a nearly 4,000-foot climb up a well-maintained trail that many hikers use to train for more difficult peaks . And others claim to have hiked it more times than Sam. But this septuagenarians resiliency impresses those many years his junior.
Thats my idol right there, said Thavee Nantarojaporn, 49, of South Pasadena, who was trail running on a sunny morning. Anybody who can do it 100 days in a row is awesome.
In 1981, Sam and his family moved from South Korea to Southern California, where he worked as a manager at the Bank of Seoul. He later bought and operated a convenience store. At one point he did not take a day off for nine years, his son said.
Sams enthusiasm for the 10,064-foot mountain  the highest point in the San Gabriel range and Los Angeles County  has inspired dozens of hikers to share stories on blogs and social media.
Kevin Ngo, 28, of Long Beach was camping atop Baldy the week of Thanksgiving and awoke to find Sam outside his tent in the middle of the night.
I could not believe my eyes when I opened up my tent and saw him standing out there, Ngo said.
They exchanged food and talked awhile before Sam descended back into the darkness. I still find myself asking if that all really happened, Ngo said.
Nithin Siddharth met Sam earlier this year on the trail. He posted a photo on Facebook that shows Sam with his friends at the summit of Mt. Baldy, holding the South Korean flag.
The caption reads: Here's to Kim and the power of the human spirit. For me he is literally the spirit of that mountain.
Sam is vocal about his desire for peaceful reunification of South and North Korea  the impetus for those summit shots with other hikers holding a South Korean flag and a map of the Korean peninsula.
But its more than politics that pushes his thin frame up the same trail to the top of the same mountain day after day, through high wind, rain and snow.
My mother cant understand why he goes to the same mountain every single day. She says, Who cares if you hike this 1,000 times? But it means a lot to him, David Kim said. Its a spiritual journey for him. He feels invigorated and finds peace of mind when he is up in the mountains.
I could not believe my eyes when I opened up my tent and saw him standing out there.  Hiker Kevin Ngo
At the end of his daily trek, Sam usually stops by a cabin at Manker Flats where his friend Richard Tufts lives. Their routine: Tufts boils water and serves green tea while Sam brings gifts such as mangoes, trail mix or beef jerky for Tufts dog.
A former ultra-marathoner who has hiked or run to the top of Mt. Baldy more than 1,000 times by his estimate, Tufts, 73, said his friends determination is astounding.
If I was 78 like him, I wouldnt be doing what hes doing. I admire him. It seems to me like its an addiction for him  its better than drugs, Tufts said.
On the day of his 100th consecutive ascent, Sam brought his two grandsons along for the trip. The youngest, Jonathan, 11, quietly trudged up the path while his grandfather jawed with dozens of hikers in broken English. The boy seems to have caught the hiking bug.
Thank you Grandpa for taking me to Mt. Baldy to hike, he wrote on a hiking blog. I hope I can keep hiking with you for a long time.
ben.poston@latimes.com

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Re: Hiking Mt. Baldy? You'll probably meet 'Sam,' a 78-year-old moun
Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:15 am (PST) . Posted by:
"roy.schweiker@juno.com" accidentlwanderer
> Is this the record for one county highpoint? And as anyone who has done the Los Angeles County, California highpoint knows, it is not trivial.

Seems like we had this topic before. The record for any cohp is probably one with a building on top where employees may go in and out several times per day.

Once you start talking hiking and summits, it becomes a matter of definition. Monadnock is not Denali or even Marcy, but it is above treeline and ice-covered several months per year.

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Re: Larry Davis on Monadnock
Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:11 am (PST) . Posted by:
"roy.schweiker@juno.com" accidentlwanderer
I can't say how many times Larry Davis has climbed Monadnock, or if he still does. I was invited to climb with him for his 1000th or 2000th or somesuch, couldn't make it but figured I could see him there any day :-) (Never have as he climbs in mornings and I don't get to summit until afternoon.)

He works 2nd shift so could do this when still working, being in good shape and knowing the trails he gets up in an hour not wasting time on views he's seen before. In one article, he said his worst trip was not in wind and ice but a rainy day in spring where the snow became slush and he had to wear hip waders.

Several decades ago, a guy I knew climbed the 48 official 4000-footers in NH in every month. Several dozen people have now done it, some multiple times. Somehow 50 or more ascents of the same 48 peaks isn't as attractive to me as 2500 different peaks.

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Re: Larry Davis on Monadnock
Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:28 am (PST) . Posted by:
"David Sanger" davidsangerphotography
"50 or more ascents of the same 48 peaks isn't as attractive to me as 2500
different peaks."

amen for sure

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Re: Larry Davis on Monadnock
Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:13 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"dean gaudet"
On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 9:27 AM, David Sanger ds@davidsanger.com [cohp] <
cohp@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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> "50 or more ascents of the same 48 peaks isn't as attractive to me as 2500
> different peaks."
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> amen for sure
>

yeah, me too.

so i did meet sam on baldy ... i was motoring on my way down, thinking
about food, a shower and rest before the next day's peaks... and he wanted
to chat a lot. i felt like an impatient "youth" :)

-dean
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Re: Hiking Mt. Baldy? You'll probably meet 'Sam,' a 78-year-old moun
Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:25 am (PST) . Posted by:
"xander Carlson" xandathor
I think you'd have to put a caveat on what type of county high point you mean. There are many county highpoints that are literally at a homeowner's doorstep. So for someone who has lived their 40 plus years, they'd easily eclipse nearly any other highpointer&#39;s number.

Although not a county highpoint, Horton the Quandary Dog made about 1000 ascents of the 14er Quandary Peak in Colorado going up multiple times a day over the course of his life. Any season too, he followed me up Quandary in winter. We were the only two on the mountain that day and I had no idea where this random dog came from, but once I read his collar it all made sense.

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Re: Hiking Mt. Baldy? You'll probably meet 'Sam,' a 78-year-old moun
Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:47 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Andy Martin" oldadit
(Coby - repeat hikes - Mount Baldy)
>>Is this the record for one county highpoint?

Looks like the record for a CA COHP as far as I know,
the old record was 639 ascents of Mount San Jacinto.

USA record is likely held by Larry Davis, who hiked
Mount Monadnock daily for 7 years until pneumonia
broke his streak.

Note that we are not counting people that have their
home on the high point ...

The old repeat hiker FRL is dusted off (below) for
newcomers who have not seen it. The former compiler
of this FRL retired many years ago. If anyone wants to
take over this listing please let me know.



Repeat hiker FRL.
The most hikes up a peak by one hiker, broken out by state.
Compiled by Andy Martin, oldadit@gmail.com

1. Most repeat hikes in different states.

St. repeats Hiker Peak Gain Notes

NH 6200+ Larry Davis Mt. Monadnock ~2,000 cohp, 2700+-
consecutive days
TN 1276 Ed Wright Mount LeConte 2,700' Alum Cave Bluff
Trail
AZ 1206 Dave Bertelsen Mount Kimball ~4,000
CA 1000+ Richard Tufts Mount Baldy cohp
http://tinyurl.com/jec9ytj
< 750 Seuk Doo Kim Mount Baldy cohp
http://tinyurl.com/jec9ytj
OR 586 Liege Coalman Mt. Hood cohp
NY 556 Peter Fish Mount Marcy cohp
CO 467 unknown Pikes Peak cohp
WA 390 George Dunn Mt. Rainier ~9,000 cohp
UT 271 John Lindblom Grandeur Peak
SC 109 Ron Ford Table Rock 2,000+
WY 80 Pete Shelley Granite Peak cohp
AK 40 Scott Woolums Denali cohp

others worth mentioning

AZ 1000+ Ed Sommers Wasson Peak
AZ 301 Ralph Keene Mt. Wrightson ~4,000 cohp
CA 700+ Sid Alpert Cowles Mountain 900 Per Bill
Schuler. In San Diego
CA 639 Sid Davis Mt. San Jacinto cohp
CA 130 Robert Webb Mount Shasta ~6,000 cohp
UT 111 Jobe Wymore Grandeur Peak
WA 352 Phil Ershler Mt. Rainier ~9,000 cohp
NH 101 John Moon Mount Washington cohp

http://www.harvardmagazine.com/on-line/0103142.html

2) Most repeats of a country HP

800+ - Hikotaro Omata, Fuji, 800+, per summer 2002 National
Geographic
250 - buddist monk, Mt. Fuji ~1150 A.D. [250 * 7562 = 3,781,000]

800+ - Eddie Campbell, Ben Nevis, ran up ~500 times
462+ - Clement Wragge, Ben Nevis, daily June 1 - Nov 1 1881, 82
and 83

279 - Orozaba Roberto "El Oso" Flores times, plus over 300
times on Izta
100 - Orizaba Mexico - Vicente Azpeitia per Dave Covill (plus
300 on Izta)

40 - Scott Woolums, Denali

60 - Augusto Ortega, Aconcagua
30 - Marty Schmidt, Aconcagua, www.msguiding.com

16 - Lhakpa Tenzing Sherpa, AKA Apa Sherpa
10 - Ang Rita, Everest Sherpa, AAI) [10 * 24,000' = 240,000]
5 - Rob Hall, Mt. Everest) [5 * 24,000' = 120,000]
4 - David Breashears, Mt. Everest) [4 *24,000' = 96,000]

3) Notable list repeats

Wayne Ratowski and Alain Chevrett have hiked the 46
Adirondack peaks originally thought to be above 4,000 feet
46 times.
DPS and SPS and HPS - Doug Mantle 7 or 8 ?? times
CO 14ers - 12 times by Jim Gehres
http://www.denbar.org/docket/doc_articles.cfm?ArticleID=4570

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US datums changing in 2022
Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:56 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Andrew Kirmse" akirmse2
The horizontal and vertical datums in the US will be updated in 2022,
replacing the existing NAD 83 and NAVD 88 datums:

https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/datums/newdatums/

It looks like peaks in the Pacific Northwest will lose a few feet of
elevation, while most of the rest of the country is essentially unaffected:

https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/datums/newdatums/images/Orthometricheights.jpg

Prominence values shouldn't be affected much, since key cols are generally
close to summits, and they will both rise or fall by approximately the same
amount.

The older datums were derived using land-based surveys (those benchmarks
you see in the ground), while the new ones will be based on measurements
from GPS satellites.
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Larry Davis -  Mt. Monadnock.
Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:42 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Jobe Wymore"
Larry Davis, to have thrown down as many ascents of Mt. Monadnock as he has, is beyond comprehension.

I had the pleasure (once) to hike the slabs near the summit under optimal dry conditions and I'm bewildered to even fathom someone, day after day, regardless of the weather, to take on that peak, those slabs, for that extent of time he did and to do so triumphantly as he.

My hats off to Larry Davis. Sure he's repeated a peak over and over but to do so on a peak that is no "dumpster dive" for as long as he did is remarkable.

Jobe Wymore

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